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Do i need a structual engineer for i ternal wall removal

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  • teneighty
    teneighty Posts: 1,347 Forumite
    In that case I don't see how it can be load bearing.


    All load bearing walls are solid block/brick, although not all solid walls are load bearing.


    I'd be interested to know why the builder thinks it needs a steel.

    This is just wrong and potentially dangerous. You can have studwork partitions supporting floors/roof etc. How do you think a modern timber frame house works? Also some older houses have loadbearing studwork walls.

    In this case I would suggest you get professional advice as you do not seem to grasp that a wall supporting the first floor joists is loadbearing.
  • Muds1
    Muds1 Posts: 83 Forumite
    So i must find an economical engineer around my area.

    And do we also have to pay to building regulations?
  • Dan-Dan
    Dan-Dan Posts: 5,279 Forumite
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    In theory you are supposed to obtain BR regs when removing or adding any internal wall , Load bearing or not
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  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 2,988 Forumite
    Speak to building control first they may have previous experience of similar property and may advise. Definitely sounds like it's load bearing and there fore is notifiable to BC
  • Dan-Dan
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    chappers wrote: »
    Speak to building control first they may have previous experience of similar property and may advise. Definitely sounds like it's load bearing and there fore is notifiable to BC

    It is notifiable to BC even if it isnt load bearing

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/internalwalls/
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  • phil24_7
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    I have a double fronted, Victorian house with the joists running front to back. There is a foundation wall running right across my building in the middle and the wall above this in timber with lath and plaster so I can assure you that a timber framed wall can definitely be load bearing.

    The fact it also supports the joist above shows it is load bearing.

    If you need a beam, you will need to involve Building Control and they, in turn, will need to see calculations for the beam, as well as seeing it in situe before it is covered.

    Regards
    Phil
  • Doozergirl
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    In that case I don't see how it can be load bearing.


    All load bearing walls are solid block/brick, although not all solid walls are load bearing.


    I'd be interested to know why the builder thinks it needs a steel.

    You are wrong. Your advice is dangerous!

    Plenty of structural walls are designed in timber and many timber walls that weren't initially designed as supporting can become so with the passage of time.

    I would never advise someone on a forum, without even having seen something, that a wall is not load bearing even if I thought it wasn't. And I move walls for a living!
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  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 2,988 Forumite
    Dan-Dan wrote: »
    It is notifiable to BC even if it isnt load bearing

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/internalwalls/
    Only in certain circumstances, such as say the wall were providing a firebreak for say a set of stairs or was an essential thermal element. ordinarily removing a non load bearing wall between to like rooms wouldn't be notifiable
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