Any natural instinct raw users?

krlyr

You could always mix the two, for more variety whilst avoiding the beef products. You might also perhaps want to look at The Dogs Butcher who do their own range of completes, too - however, they did say on their Facebook page recently that their completes haven't been nutritionally analysed as yet.

Keizebrink are another well-recommended brand of raw - I don't think they do complete minces but check out the 'Alaska' dog food they link on their page, perhaps.

There are some other alternatives to consider..

Second opinion from a pro-raw (or at least 'raw neutral') vet

Adding a dietary supplement (perhaps on the back of the above), either a vitamin supplement or something like SmartBarf

Blood tests to see if there's any physical signs of deficiencies (could also be worth ruling out other conditions - e.g. hypothyroidism can cause a charge/darkened pigmentation)

Feeding a freeze-dried type commercial food - these will have to meet regulations to be sold as 'complete' foods, perhaps more strictly than raw food manufacturers. You might perhaps consider a grain-free kibble, to trial.

Rev

krlyr wrote: »

You could always mix the two, for more variety whilst avoiding the beef products. You might also perhaps want to look at The Dogs Butcher who do their own range of completes, too - however, they did say on their Facebook page recently that their completes haven't been nutritionally analysed as yet.

Keizebrink are another well-recommended brand of raw - I don't think they do complete minces but check out the 'Alaska' dog food they link on their page, perhaps.

There are some other alternatives to consider..

Second opinion from a pro-raw (or at least 'raw neutral') vet

Adding a dietary supplement (perhaps on the back of the above), either a vitamin supplement or something like SmartBarf

Blood tests to see if there's any physical signs of deficiencies (could also be worth ruling out other conditions - e.g. hypothyroidism can cause a charge/darkened pigmentation)

Feeding a freeze-dried type commercial food - these will have to meet regulations to be sold as 'complete' foods, perhaps more strictly than raw food manufacturers. You might perhaps consider a grain-free kibble, to trial.

Thank you. I'll check out those raw suppliers.

I've placed an order with Paleo ridge. The dog I want to put on completes has no issues with any meat. It Amy other dog that is sensitive to beef so he can stay as is!

He has SF50 powder which is a multi vitamin. He also has an anti histamine every day because of skin issues (this is why he has the SF50 just to give his immune system a boost).

I plan to stop the SF50 and antihistamines and swap to the complete minces and see how he goes.

If there's no change in a month or so I'll be requesting blood tests to be sure all is as it should be.

Sorry but I couldn't be paid to feed him kibble. He is intolerant to processed chicken, turkey, beef and fish and any cereal. It took 6 months when he was a pup to figure out why everything he ate came out explosively. He spent 3 months being unable to eat anything but boiled potato and scrambled egg. Every kibble I tried (besides Simpsons lamb and potato) caused issues. Someone suggested Raw. I made the switch and since then he hasn't had a single stomach issue and his skin issues have reduced drastically (a few flare ups a year treated by dermacton as opposed to steroids every few months). He happily eats the raw meats that give him issues when processed. I'm not against kibble as such, if it were my other dog I'd probably give it a go. But for this one, kibble is a complete no go.
It's strange. The brown patch isn't on his skin, that's still pink. So it's just his fur.

krlyr

Is he licking the area a lot? Saliva can cause staining to the fur, often you'll see pinkish brown paws on dogs with allergies that give them itchy feet as the saliva discolours them.

Rev

krlyr wrote: »

Is he licking the area a lot? Saliva can cause staining to the fur, often you'll see pinkish brown paws on dogs with allergies that give them itchy feet as the saliva discolours them.

No not at all. He's not showing it any extra attantion at all.

Huskyrunner

too the op try a butcher on ebay called kevintrent he is down in ottery i think it is we have used him for years top notch.

Another one too try is theyloveit.co.uk we buy paddywack from them


We have 6 siberian huskies that we race that are raw fed. They get minces/paddywhack/chicken wings/offal/veg/sardines and are all so healthy

on kibble we had too feed arden granges top top one too prevent skin and behavioual issues

Rev

Huskyrunner wrote: »

too the op try a butcher on ebay called kevintrent he is down in ottery i think it is we have used him for years top notch.

Another one too try is theyloveit.co.uk we buy paddywack from them


We have 6 siberian huskies that we race that are raw fed. They get minces/paddywhack/chicken wings/offal/veg/sardines and are all so healthy

on kibble we had too feed arden granges top top one too prevent skin and behavioual issues

Can you link me to the eBay seller please.

I have tried they love it but found it quite the faf because the blocks aren't individually wrapped and you can't just throw them in the freezer without wrapping them (I could if I had a chest freezer but I don't). So I had to individually wrap 40 blocks of food.


And the quality wasn't any better than my normal raw supplier so not worth the extra messing, plus it was double the price of my normal supplier (I don't mind paying extra for better quality but that wasn't the case - not saying it was bad quality at all, just that it was no better than my normal supplier).

The paleo ridge is going down a storm currently!

Huskyrunner

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/kevin.tratt2012/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

thats his details

We usually get the mince sleaves off him and i pm him and ask for so many kg of other bits and pieces and he pops it in

ie bones etc

Huskyrunner

This guy maybe ideal for you as he does minces which are duck based, or pork, he did do chicken ones too. Being a little while since we ordered as we bulk buy from him ie fill the chest freezer for 3 months.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-mixed-raw-value-for-money-meat-and-bone-pack-/172140328769?hash=item28145cf741:g:5CsAAOSwB4NWxiKH

A cash saving tip you can link your nectar card if you have one too ebay so if you purchase on ebay you can build up nectar points.

This is what we do as you can imagine feeding the quantity of dogs we have it aint cheap

Rev

Huskyrunner wrote: »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/kevin.tratt2012/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

thats his details

We usually get the mince sleaves off him and i pm him and ask for so many kg of other bits and pieces and he pops it in

ie bones etc

Thanks. Will have a proper look when I next need to order.

Fosterdog

That eBay seller is very expensive, he does 20kg of minced chicken carcass for £48 my supplier http://www.rawpetsupplies.co.uk does them in 2.5kg blocks for £2 so 25kg is only £20 for an extra 5kg, even with a courier charge of £9.95 if you're not local for up to 30kg they work out much cheaper.

His meat and bone selection, in fact almost everything he sells is way too high in bone content and nowhere near enough offal, it is so far from a proper balance that you will be spending a lot more on bulking out the meat and bone content from another supplier anyway.

Some of his other overpriced items - duck necks £3kg RPS £2kg
20kg of beef £50 RPS £26

Pretty much the whole range is coming in a lot more, plus with him you have to order bulk of the same thing with RPS you mix and match to get a good variety and they have several suppliers so a very good mix of different options.