People with LONG TERM Health problems - GPs could refer you to job coaches

Cheeky_Monkey

teddysmum wrote: »

When Remploy establishments, which provided sheltered work for disabled people, were closed down, it was the disabled people who protested, because they wanted to work. Able-bodied workshy would not have done that.

Some of them will in order to protect their life-style.


The job coaches will “work with patients to establish their previous work experience, knowledge and skills, to build confidence, set goals and identify job or educational opportunities.”

I was referring to those people who 'fake it' and would therefore be terrified that a Job Coach may, God forbid, actually find something that they can do or could train to do :eek:

GirlFromMars_2

dippy3103 wrote: »

Exactly. Some people genuinely are unable to work, some people are unable to do certain jobs (or require reasonable adjustments such as myself) and others seem to view benefits as a comfort blanket. I have worked with people in wheelchairs and with a plethora of disabilities. Why should someone that is disabled be denied the opportunity to work?

If it becomes mandatory, then protest by all means but whilst it's voluntary I don't see the issue.

I know you probably didn't mean it like this, but there is too much emphasis on disabled = wheelchair user. Many wheelchair users are obviously fully able to engage with work, assuming there are ramps & lifts. Many non-wheelchair users face disabilities that cannot be compensated for by even an understanding work place.

DomRavioli

As someone with MH issues who has worked for the majority of her adult life (barring some time out with unrelated health problems), I welcome this.

OP, take this to discussion time, not this board.

sangie595

There is a well established and evidenced link between ill health, early mortality, and long term unemployment. I can see very good reasons why a doctor may want their clients to have the potential to enjoy better health and a longer life span. I'd be interested in hearing why anyone is protesting people having these things?

dippy3103

GirlFromMars wrote: »

I know you probably didn't mean it like this, but there is too much emphasis on disabled = wheelchair user. Many wheelchair users are obviously fully able to engage with work, assuming there are ramps & lifts. Many non-wheelchair users face disabilities that cannot be compensated for by even an understanding work place.

That was kind of my point. I'm disabled too, as is my son. Look at either of us and you wouldn't know it. There is a massive diversity within the disabled community, physical and mental disabilities, and therefore our abilitys and needs. Why should someone be written off because they are disabled? True equality means opportunity for all based upon their merits.


I know you were not having a pop, was clarifying my post x

GirlFromMars_2

dippy3103 wrote: »

That was kind of my point. I'm disabled too, as is my son. Look at either of us and you wouldn't know it. There is a massive diversity within the disabled community, physical and mental disabilities, and therefore our abilitys and needs. Why should someone be written off because they are disabled? True equality means opportunity for all based upon their merits.


I know you were not having a pop, was clarifying my post x

Yup, I'd agree, there is huge diversity within the abilities & needs of people with long term conditions, and this sounds like it may be a positive step towards some sense of individualised assistance. I would hope, being based in GPs surgeries whomever is offering this service would have more sympathies towards individuals needs than the jobcentre/work program are typically able/willing to provide. I guess we'll find out, and if that's not the case there may be some reason to protest, but probably only for a better service!

I know you didn't mean it that way, I just find it really difficult being an "invisible" disabled person, and it's really irritating that disabled is so synonymous with wheelchair user! Thanks for the clarification!

nannytone_2

does seem pretty positive as long as it is real help and advice, rather than just another way to try and force the sick/disabled to do things they cannot.

even though i am in the support group, i regularly go to see the disability advisor at the JC, but all i am ever told is that there is nothing they can do to help me.

many disabled people also aren't sick, and like me, rarely, if ever, visit the GP

I'm sure the doctors will be thrilled to have additional patients to see in order to access this help

teddysmum

nannytone wrote: »

even though i am in the support group, i regularly go to see the disability advisor at the JC, but all i am ever told is that there is nothing they can do to help me

Your JC people, obviously don't try hard enough.


(Several years ago),ours suggested that my totally blind brother-in-law go for an interview for a supermarket shelf stacking job. He found it hilarious.:rotfl:

dippy3103

nannytone wrote: »

does seem pretty positive as long as it is real help and advice, rather than just another way to try and force the sick/disabled to do things they cannot.

even though i am in the support group, i regularly go to see the disability advisor at the JC, but all i am ever told is that there is nothing they can do to help me.

many disabled people also aren't sick, and like me, rarely, if ever, visit the GP

I'm sure the doctors will be thrilled to have additional patients to see in order to access this help

I find that a shame.. You clearly are intelligent, compassionate and want to work. What a shame you are not given a chance.

Did you work before? What kind of work did you do?

dippy3103

Wanted to add, a friend of my Dad's is in the same boat. Yes he is in his sixties & disabled but he has a wealth of experience and skills and could really bring value to an employer.