Smoking & Renting

franklee

If there a lot of rental properties on the market it strikes me that a landlord could do very well by advertising for smokers, pets, etc. He'll probably get crushed in the stampede of otherwise excluded tenants. He could make extra charges for cleaning to make up for any problems caused. Finding a niche is always a good idea. Why are so many landlords lemmings?

Gorgeous_George

I disagree. You have lied and you risk invalidating the LL's insurance.

I prefer non-smokers (who wouldn't?) and I always ask my tenants to smoke outside. I know I would have little, if any, control over what they do in THEIR home. If the house catches fire FOR ANY REASON, the insurers may reduce the payout (possibly to nothing) if they find out that the tenants smoked.



GG

PasturesNew

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

I disagree. You have lied and you risk invalidating the LL's insurance.

I prefer non-smokers (who wouldn't?) and I always ask my tenants to smoke outside. I know I would have little, if any, control over what they do in THEIR home. If the house catches fire FOR ANY REASON, the insurers may reduce the payout (possibly to nothing) if they find out that the tenants smoked.



GG

I said I'd NEVER smoke in the flat. I've never smoked in my own houses, or in the flats/houses rented/owned by any of my (smoking and non smoking) friends.
It's just horrid.

I think what Guy said above though is: he'd sign to say he is not a smoker, as he isn't... but if his mates wanted to light up, he'd not chuck them out to do it.

real1314

I can't be certain, but I can't ever recall a house insurance company asking about smoking?

I really can't see it invalidating a landlord's insurance any more than a cooking accident would.

But smokers do stink. Of cigarettes.

nollag2006

Guy_Montag wrote: »

When I moved into my current place I was asked if I smoked, which I didn't. But I've had guests that do, & they're not getting kicked out of my home if they want a tab.

Why not ??

I'd be horrified if a guest just lit up in my home. Most people are more considerate than that, and would go outside for a cigarette, without even asking

lynzpower

nollag2006 wrote: »

Why not ??

I'd be horrified if a guest just lit up in my home. Most people are more considerate than that, and would go outside for a cigarette, without even asking

maybe it just doesnt bother guy?

my parents dont smoke- my dad is actually very against it ( ex-smoker), but they let us smoke in thier conservatory with the door open. He sees it as hospitality. People just have different approaches dont they?

I mist admit, Ive never been asked on my house insurance if I smoke, and I must have had 5 policies. I have been asked on my life & private health cover, but thats expected.

A_Nice_Englishman

real1314 wrote: »

I can't be certain, but I can't ever recall a house insurance company asking about smoking?

I really can't see it invalidating a landlord's insurance any more than a cooking accident would.

But smokers do stink. Of cigarettes.

When I rented a place I'm pretty sure my contents insurer (Norwich Union) asked if I smoked. No idea about the landlord's buildings insurer but he didn't allow smoking.

Now I own my own house my insurer (Direct Line) didn't ask.

If we're not allowing smoking because of the fire risk, how about a 'mustn't come home drunk and put the chip pan on' clause? We often hear about fires caused like this.

Guy_Montag

nollag2006 wrote: »

Why not ??

I'd be horrified if a guest just lit up in my home. Most people are more considerate than that, and would go outside for a cigarette, without even asking

I run a happy & hospitable house; if one of my guests tells me they are going out for a cigarette, I tell them to stay in bed & I'll get them an ashtray

Gorgeous_George

Chip pans should be illegal. If any MSEers own such a thing, please bin it now. Thermostaically controlled deep fat fryers are so much safer and fairly cheap. Also, if you read this, why not test your smoke alarm NOW.

With the ban on smoking in public places, why are tradesmen not protected from the secondhand smoke in people's homes. After all, this is their workplace?

It is a filthy habit and shows a lack of self-esteem. Excessive drinking/drunkardness does the same.

MSEers do not smoke.



GG

Horasio

real1314 wrote: »

I wouldn;t be bothered, but I'd rather know in advance. Stopping you smoking outside the property would probably be deemed unfair, even in the garden

I have friends who smoke and they go outside in the garden.