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Bletchley Inclosures Act & Award - anyone live under these?

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dc197
dc197 Posts: 812 Forumite
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edited 18 February 2016 at 11:09PM in House buying, renting & selling
Does anyone live in Bletchley, now in Milton Keynes?
Do your deeds talk of the Bletchley Inclosures (sic) Act 1810 and of Bletchley Inclosures Awards from 1810 onwards?

Unfortunately the national Archives don't hold a digital copy of these docs and I have not yet been to Aylesbury to read the paper originals.

Apparently these instruments helped divide up the land and laid rules for Common land, tithing (or lack of) and cultivation.

Does anyone live in Bletchley? If so, what is your understanding of your rights of obligations under these instruments, if your house is subject to them? What cultivation can you not do? To whom do you supposedly have to tithe, and have you ever done so? Has anyone invoked some kind of archaic right to Common land, like grazing, over your property, or some such thing?

Thank you
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  • G_M
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    dc197 wrote: »
    Does anyone live in Bletchley, now in Milton Keynes?
    Do your deeds talk of the Bletchley Inclosures (sic) Act 1810 and of Bletchley Inclosures Awards from 1810 onwards?

    Unfortunately the national Archives don't hold a digital copy of these docs and I have not yet been to Aylesbury to read the paper originals.
    Unfortunately like most documents relating to Bletchley, the reason digital (and paper) copies are unavailable is because disclosing thm contravenes the Official Secrets Act 1911.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    dc197 wrote: »
    What cultivation can you not do?

    I'd imagine pot is out of the question....
  • bouicca21
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    Is this a wind up? What makes you think that act is still in force? Have you looked at the numerous Tithe Acts that have been passed since 1836? Have you checked with your local council as to registered common land and the rights appertaining to it?
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    marksoton wrote: »
    I'd imagine pot is out of the question....
    Actually I think that's how the Bletchley code-breakers got most of their best ideas.....
  • dc197
    dc197 Posts: 812 Forumite
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    edited 18 February 2016 at 11:43PM
    Why would I waste my time and yours with a wind up? Of course it is not, what a silly idea.

    I know very little about the Act, I can only assume it is still in force because I know of nothing that has repealed or significantly amended it, although of course there could be any number of such acts.

    I ask because the deeds of the house I plan to buy mention it, but only very briefly. Written in 1976. My local solicitor summarised it, but did so so briefly as to be meaningless, and I am still awaiting a reply to my two requests for clarification.
  • marksoton
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    G_M wrote: »
    Actually I think that's how the Bletchley code-breakers got most of their best ideas.....

    Rumour has it amphetamines were preferred.....
  • bouicca21
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    Well if it isn't a wind up, check your facts. it is extremely unlikely that the enclosure act is still in force. check the register of common land at your local council.

    My deeds say I have to repair the road in front of my block of flats - this condition was imposed when the local bigwig landowner sold building plots in the 1890s. My local council adopted the road nearly a century ago, but that condition still appears on the deeds even though it is a dead letter. Your bit about the enclosure act is almost certainly similarly dead, unless it imposes a chancel repair liability which will probably be extinguished on the next sale.

    I can think of at least 4 acts of Parliament that will modify your enclosure act, and that is just off the top of my head (which is full of geeky stuff like that)

    Try looking at these
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/managing-common-land
    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/common-lands/
    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/tithes/
  • dc197
    dc197 Posts: 812 Forumite
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    Indeed, checking is exactly why I am posting here. I have no idea what the Act demands (I have not been able to read it) nor whether anything has suppressed it (knowing which newer rules change the rules whose names you know is very hard).
    Could you download your geek file to share details of those four Parliamentary Acts please? Thanks
  • bouicca21
    bouicca21 Posts: 6,694 Forumite
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    Follow the links.

    The common land issue is simple - local register will tell you what and where.

    Tithes is almost certainly a totally dead issue. See particularly the act of 1936. There were also acts in 1836, 1846 and 1891 and I think there were other minor ones.
  • bouicca21
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    PS. Local solicitors will have dealt with similar knowledge requirements time after time again and will undoubtedly already have all the answers you need.
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