New roof and building regs

haf1

Thank you Davesnave, I wasn't aware of the difference. They will make a nice read for a quiet Sunday (roof work required here, too ) ...

Davesnave

haf1 wrote: »

Thank you Davesnave, I wasn't aware of the difference. They will make a nice read for a quiet Sunday (roof work required here, too ) ...

If only people would read around particular types of work before they start, many problems might never arise.

However, beware. I started reading around something recently. This led me to think that the person I was going to employ had a second-rate solution in mind.....so now I'm doing it myself!

Davesnave

I've taken my more lighthearted post down because something has occurred to me which someone with more knowledge/experience could advise on.

OP you say there's a loft conversion, so it would be helpful to know when that was done and what the room (s) is used for now.

This is because the replacement of tiles was an opportunity to insulate which the council might require before sign-off.

There's also the separate matter of having a BCO poking around the conversion if you go for inspection, where their attitude and approach might depend on the year it was done and your usage.

This is maybe more complex than it first appeared.

andybenw

You have a problem. If more than 50% of a roof is replaced then it is governed by building regs and needs to meet modern thermal efficiency standards. More than likely you will experience problems on selling.

Unfortunately the owner, not contractor is responsible for notifying works.

G_M

andybenw wrote: »

You have a problem. If more than 50% of a roof is replaced then it is governed by building regs and needs to meet modern thermal efficiency standards. More than likely you will experience problems on selling.

Unfortunately the owner, not contractor is responsible for notifying works.

That sounds plausible, but do you have a source we can read?

Doozergirl

G_M wrote: »

That sounds plausible, but do you have a source we can read?

It's 25%

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/roof/

andybenw

Doozergirl wrote: »

It's 25%

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/roof/

No, it's 50 percent.

http://www.competentroofer.co.uk/competentroofer/about-us/faq

leveller2911

^^^

Do we really need all of these Trade Associations with self certification Schemes in the Construction Industry?.

We have everthing from FENSA through to roofing self certification now. None of them are worth a light because they check their own work and as we all know we all make mistakes and many with take short cuts so any self Cert schemes are worthless.

Just about all of them charge membership and have a vested interested in promoting themselves ahead of any Quality Standard.In the case of "Competant roofer" you have to stump up around £1,000 for the 1st year and then £550 every year plus inspection fees. Its just another one of the money making schemes.

Its becoming a bit of a joke now. I'm waiting for one to start up for:

"Competant Gutter cleaners Association of Great Britain" .

with all the associated bulls*it of how "Our goal is to bring high standards to the gutter cleaning industry and our members are all qualified to clean gutters".

andybenw

leveller2911 wrote: »

^^^

Do we really need all of these Trade Associations with self certification Schemes in the Construction Industry?.

We have everthing from FENSA through to roofing self certification now. None of them are worth a light because they check their own work and as we all know we all make mistakes and many with take short cuts so any self Cert schemes are worthless.

Just about all of them charge membership and have a vested interested in promoting themselves ahead of any Quality Standard.In the case of "Competant roofer" you have to stump up around £1,000 for the 1st year and then £550 every year plus inspection fees. Its just another one of the money making schemes.

Its becoming a bit of a joke now. I'm waiting for one to start up for:

"Competant Gutter cleaners Association of Great Britain" .

with all the associated bulls*it of how "Our goal is to bring high standards to the gutter cleaning industry and our members are all qualified to clean gutters".

The self policing becomes self perpetuating. Electrical is particulary bad as a new semi qualified 'domestic installer' has evolved. Not a bad thing in itself, but the same schemes that do the checking also do the training, and it has become a gravy train.

leveller2911

andybenw wrote: »

The self policing becomes self perpetuating. Electrical is particulary bad as a new semi qualified 'domestic installer' has evolved. Not a bad thing in itself, but the same schemes that do the checking also do the training, and it has become a gravy train.

All of these schemes lose credibility the moment they charge £100's a year for membership. The same can be said for FENSA and it hasn't stopped people from signing off their work as being competant/complying with regs when in fact it doesn't.

These schemes are dishonest and rely on the honesty of the members. Members are human and when they make a c0ck up and fit the wrong glass or wrong thickness of Celotex the vast majority will just sign the paperwork saying the work is up to regs rathr than take it out and replace it with the correct material.

The ONLY way to have work checked is by Local Building Control.Even they don't get it right 100% but at least they are impartial and don't charge extortionate membership fees.

I've always used the Building Notice Scheme for my work rather than joining FENSA because the Building Inspectors are independant whereas FENSA and the roofing schemes all have a vested interest which is to make money.