New VED road tax rules: plan ahead for 2017 UK car tax changes

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Marktheshark wrote: »

Another farce, just put it on fuel, the polluter pays then.
The granny that does the shopping run of 5 miles a week currently pays the same as a rep doing 200k a year in the same car.

You really are a drama queen aren't you.

Working 5 days a week, three weeks holiday a year and bank holidays. Can you tell me which companies expect their reps to drive 840 miles a day?
At 70 mph that's 12 hours driving a day.

Dandytf

Minrich wrote: »

Why do people buy brand new ? Why not ex demo or a year old and save a stack of cash ? Is it just for the options that can be added ?

Excellent point 01 clio drove 3 1/2 years o2 clio 9 yrs

Both cars 1-3 yrs when I purchased them very low milage/low running cost/reliable.

Just purchased my current 2011 clio last year.

The cost difference for a brand new clio was +150 per month + a few grand.

I speak from my own experience with purchasing low age/low mileage cars.;)

Gloomendoom

Minrich wrote: »

Why do people buy brand new ? Why not ex demo or a year old and save a stack of cash ? Is it just for the options that can be added ?

I used to think along the same lines but, when my wife bought her car, it was as cheap to buy new (through a broker) as secondhand.

marlot

Minrich wrote: »

Why do people buy brand new ? Why not ex demo or a year old and save a stack of cash ? Is it just for the options that can be added ?

Because new can sometimes be cheaper, especially if buying on PCP.

For example if you wanted a new merc E class at the moment, merc will make a significant contribution into the PCP. Why? Because there is a new E class due out in the summer, and they are trying to clear stocks of the old one. In total, you can get around £10k off a £40k car.

The manufacturers and dealers quite like PCP, as they hope to get another sale at the end of the deal.

We have three cars in the household. One bought new, One at 3 months old and one at 1 year old. In each case, that was the optimum time to buy them if we wanted new or nearly new. We tend to keep our cars pretty much forever. Indeed they are worth relatively little at the end, and in the past we've given them away to friends who need a decent car, but who have hit hard times.

marlot

Marktheshark wrote: »

Another farce, just put it on fuel, the polluter pays then.
The granny that does the shopping run of 5 miles a week currently pays the same as a rep doing 200k a year in the same car.

As others have said, the bulk of the tax is already on the fuel if you are a high miler.

WellKnownSid

londonTiger wrote: »

lol, considering a new car is £20,000 I like how MSE is suggesting people plan the purchasse of their new car either before or after the tax changes.

Car tax can vary from £100-£300. The norm being around the £200 mark. It's a bit ridiculous when you're forking out 20 grand for a car and then you're counting the pennies for road tax.

Not many people buy cars based upon the RRP these days. Many won't even know what it was - just the monthly payment ("it's costing me xxx per month"). Some may be aware there is a mileage limit to their deal - but how many know what that limit is or the cost per mile of going over it?

There is also an irrational fear of having to pay VED, with a lot of people keen to seek out £0/£20/£30 cars in the secondhand market.

So someone ordering a cheap 17 plate car for next March will not only save money in their VED - they will have something they can more easily sell on if they decided to keep the car and the rules remained the same.

Johno100

marlot wrote: »

As others have said, the bulk of the tax is already on the fuel if you are a high miler.

So why not go the whole hog and put it all on fuel? Think of the savings in admin costs and enforcement at the DVLA alone.

facade

Johno100 wrote: »

So why not go the whole hog and put it all on fuel? Think of the savings in admin costs and enforcement at the DVLA alone.

What NOT TAX SOMETHING! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:and go against hundreds of years of double & triple taxation?

If it moves- tax it!
If it doesn't move- tax it!

Then tax it again!

jimjames

arcon5 wrote: »

About time a fairer system was introduced.

One that doesn't punish to poor who can't afford nice new shiny cars that benefit from little to no tax.

+1 to the chancellor.

Just a shame this isn't a fairer system as it has no impact at all on existing vehicles, especially older ones that some here may drive. It hardly seems a fair system when the tax is the same or more than the value of the car.

Ectophile

arcon5 wrote: »

About time a fairer system was introduced.

One that doesn't punish to poor who can't afford nice new shiny cars that benefit from little to no tax.

+1 to the chancellor.

There's no such thing as a fair tax. Taxes are always based on somebody's agenda. What's fair for one person would be unfair for others. In most cases a "fair" tax is one where I pay less, while the people I don't really like pay more.

Why should someone who can only afford to buy a little city car pay as much tax as someone who can afford a huge estate car?

Why should somebody buying an older car which produces more pollution pay less tax than somebody buying a brand new car that produces less pollution?