Convince me to work

makeyourdaddyproud

Yawn. If you are really, really bored you can make money of eBay buying in-demand faulty goods (Dyson vacuums etc), disassembling and selling the working parts OR buying products in bulk and selling smaller quantities such as small bags of thistle plaster (I've only ever seen 25kg bags). There you go, you can now work for yourself.

Andypandyboy

What about getting some qualifications OP? What job would you really like to do?

Use the jobs as a means to an end, and don't be too upset if they don't work out. You say you have a friend in recruitment, have you told him how you feel? Maybe he can point you towards more reliable companies.

All that said, you do have to look inwards here too. You may have a personality trait that you are unaware of that makes you a target. You mention bullying, if you are saying this is one reason why you lose jobs then what form does the bullying take? Consider if you do or say something that makes you a target. Are you overly argumentative, are you a know all, are you lazy, are you a moaner, can you bite your tongue and walk away, are you rude? None of us is perfect and often we have to curtail our natural selves to fit the workplace.

No one should need to persuade you that work is the way forward, the work ethic should be there. Take stock of your life, both personal and work and look at how you can change to make it better.

Make a list of your good points and your bad points, ask a friend whom you trust to be honest (tell them why it is important) and let them make the same list. Ask your pal in recruitment to give you honest feedback too and then think about what has been said. Make changes based on this.

Also, consider if you are depressed, this type of illness can colour everything. If you think it possible see your GP.

You need to make changes, or this is your life, stretching out in front of you........

L33bou

xapprenticex wrote: »

not sure if flame bait or not...

I do this all the time when talking

SomeRandomGuy

There are plenty of people in their late 20s and even 30s that have never worked at all or have only worked for brief periods of time in various jobs, so I don't think your situation is that unusual.... but there is often an underlying reason such as mental health or social problems.

Yes it is true there aren't really any unskilled or semi-skilled 'jobs for life' any more but even so losing 20 jobs is a pretty strong indicator something isn't right. What do you think is going wrong OP?

I don't think anyone can be convinced to work if they really don't want to. The state attempts to push people into work by keeping JSA and related benefits barely at subsistence level and by perpetuating the scrounger narrative that has society looking down on welfare recipients. However many still end up living this way with perhaps the odd bit of cash in hand work on the side.

So many jobs provide no security and such a meagre wage that if people were to stop moralising about the issue and think rationally they would realize it is actually quite logical for some people at the bottom of society to choose benefits over work. (not that I believe there are a large number of people in this category).

If you are happy to live off £70 a week while being hassled by the Jobcentre then good luck to you I say.

bluenoseam

Gottagofast wrote: »

I am a mid thirties male who cannot hold down a job. Not even a basic entry one. I have had more than 20 jobs, and have recently lost another one.

I am hard working, professional, and intelligent, i do not expect preferential treatment, i am always on time. In return employers have consistently let me down. The worst was last year when my firm laid me and over 100 people off as well to ship the jobs out to a third world country, and my last job was designated office scapegoat and blame toy for a new company with a very high staff turnover.

I have savings, can live on a budget, god knows that has been my life. My family disowned me several years ago. I have poured every fibre of my being into finding a job which can last, and i have consistently failed. It used to be my belief that hard work paid off and being an adult meant you had your own choices. Check out this sucker.

I want to know what i can do. I do not want to work until it is clear what the problem is. It can't simply be all about me. There is no sense to any of this, no pattern. I really think now that my bottom ladder social status prevents me from finding meaningful, reliable work, or being treated as anything other than disposable. But come on, convince me to come off the benefits. Tell me to pull up the bootstraps and get back on the horse. Hit me with all your platitudes and advice about volunteering. Let's do the funny dance again. I am so tired.

I question what you said at the start - if you're 35 even on fair weather you'll have 19 years of being in the labour market & in that time you've had 20 jobs. That tells me there's a problem either with your commitment, your personality, your professionalism or the standard of your work. While it's possible that blind luck is against you, it's improbable that in 19 years one has had 20 jobs and none of those job losses have been a direct result of you.

It's likely that some of those jobs were admittedly not good, but I struggle to believe that anyone who claims to be a model employee can be that unfortunate. To put it into context, I'm never going to claim to be the perfect employee & is someone who has severe issues when it comes to getting bored - but even I've not had THAT bad a time.

I think you need to take a look and understand that the one connecting factor between 20 bad jobs is YOU.

naff123

I can sympathise mate.

Don't take a blind bit of notice of some of the vitriol coming out of some of the absolutely judgemental people on here who I add come across as absolutely disgusting in attitude and demonstrate a problem with society where people feel superior.

I experienced deep depression after losing my dad and the family all disowned each other which in turn lead into a high turn over of the jobs.

Keep your chin up dig down because there is a time in your life when you have to say enough is enough, because with respect (I mean this in the best way possible because I had to do it) you have to stop blaming others for mistakes and start facing up to your decisions and path you have gone down in life.

Again I am not judging you in your situation just giving you frank advice that you need to put the past behind you start fresh with a positive attitude.

Don't listen to the trolls on here because they are the nay sayers.

pixo

As an employer, someone who has a job history of 20 jobs in a short space of time... you wouldn't be my first choice... ?

You are seriously damaging your CV and your chances of getting jobs...?

naff123

pixo wrote: »

As an employer, someone who has a job history of 20 jobs in a short space of time... you wouldn't be my first choice... ?

You are seriously damaging your CV and your chances of getting jobs...?

What ever happened to equal opportunities and judging people based on ability above all else?

lincroft1710

naff123 wrote: »

What ever happened to equal opportunities and judging people based on ability above all else?

Nothing, it is still part of the criteria for employee selection. However it is still the case that some potential employees are more equal than others.

I can see pixo's point, 2 candidates of equal ability, one has a steady employment record, suggests the candidate will remain in the job for a reasonable amount of time and is reliable. One has had 20 jobs - no staying power? disruptive? not dedicated?

Don't forget that some jobs could have 50 plus applicants, employers have to quickly sort wheat from chaff, unfortunately many will consider OP chaff.

naff123

I don't personally I just see it as a justification for people judging and being assumptive of people. Nobody knows the actual nitty gritty I was always taught in my profession to never shut the door on anybody and give everyone a chance to prove themselves and you know what some of the best people are 'mavericks' or go 'against the grain'.