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Broken Over Top - Landlord's Responsibility or Mine

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  • thesaint
    thesaint Posts: 4,324 Forumite
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    Again, this looks like an unsubstantiated claim.

    Perhaps you can give us your reasons for(I assume)disagreeing?
    With, or without references.
    Well life is harsh, hug me don't reject me.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    thesaint wrote: »
    Perhaps you can give us your reasons for(I assume)disagreeing?
    That looks like an unsubstantiated assumption.
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    edited 10 February 2016 at 6:58PM
    I am just pointing out that it is not obvious that claiming on insurance is 'mitigating one's loss'.
    The article provided about mitigating loss does not mention anything on this.

    If the tenant breaches the lease then indeed the landlord must mitigate his loss. This is the loss resulting from the breach. See article.

    On a side note, most if not all insurance policies also make it a condition of the policy that the insurer must mitigate his loss.

    Though I understand the logic of the argument it is not obvious that the landlord must claim off his insurance or that doing so is mitigating his loss.
    I haven't seen any reference on either.

    Edit:
    Let's assume that the landlord must indeed claim on his insurance. This means that every time a landlord proposes deductions to a tenant's deposit the tenant should demand evidence that the relevant loss is not covered by insurance.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    and we have yet to establish whether the landlord has insurance, and if he does, whether it extends to accidental damage by tenants.

    Neither can be assumed.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Of course, insurance is totally irrelevant to whether the OP should pay £50 or whatever towards the replacement of a decade-old hob.
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    Of course, insurance is totally irrelevant to whether the OP should pay £50 or whatever towards the replacement of a decade-old hob.

    Ah but the saint claimed that the landlord had to claim on his insurance if he was insured, and you claimed that claiming on the insurance was part of the obligation to mitigate a loss.

    If so, insurance is very relevant.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    <sigh>
    There would be no benefit whatsoever - no mitigation - in claiming for such a small amount.
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    <sigh>
    There would be no benefit whatsoever - no mitigation - in claiming for such a small amount.

    How do you know without knowing what the insurance covers and how much any excess is?
  • How about just paying for something YOU have damaged, the landlords clearly wasn't expecting a bill even though it was 10 years old, your clumsy act means he's getting one or a shed load of paperwork.
  • jbainbridge
    jbainbridge Posts: 2,034 Forumite
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    I would suspect the cost of this item may not exceed the excess on any insurance. So there would be no reason to claim.

    OP you broke it. You fix it. Sorry.
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