Am I missing something?

misterzim

Through fear of sounding dumb, I'm not making sense of the collective switch where British Gas comes out on top and MSE quote it as "Cheaper than the cheapest energy".


On doing a comparison there are 17 other providers/deals that beat the BG deal for price so how can it be the cheapest?

[Deleted User]

Maybe, maybe not.

What are you entering into the Cheap Energy Club website (current tariff, actual kWh used, region) and what results for dual fuel are better and by how much. What is the best dual fuel tariff for you according to the CEC website? Are you paying by direct debit monthly, online bill?

For me, the MSE BG Collective is the cheapest dual fuel and is slightly cheaper per year but the exit fees from a current tariff would mean it's more expensive for a full year by £16.

The tariff is aimed at average users so might not fit your consumption pattern.

[Deleted User]

Maybe can be beat on a single gas and a single electric suppliers. Dual fuel its the best but may well be overtaken in the coming few months. Its a two year fix so may look average. I ve jumped at it from my current BG fix hoping there will be better BG/Sainsburys energy fixes before Feb 2017 where I can tariff hop. It has for me, an 85p a week drop in standing charges.

misterzim

I enter yearly usage kWh for both gas/elec on dual fuel paying by DD monthly.


In order, the following beat BG's collective switch on my current Coop Energy Fixed March 2016 V2 tariff according to CEC (the same order of suppliers still beat BG ,with different savings, against the coop regular tariff too):


Extra Energy - saving £115 - £129 across 3 different tariffs
First Utility - saving £111
Flow Energy - saving £110
Avro Energy - saving £109
Places for People Energy - saving £107
GnERGY - saving £90
So Energy - saving £88
Green Star Energy - saving £87
iSupply Energy - saving £86
Go Effortless Energy - saving £84
Coop Energy - saving £81
NPower - saving £79
Peterborough - saving £79
First Utility - saving £76
Robin Hood - saving £76
British Gas Collective Swtich - saving £73

Seriously, am I missing something? There are benefits to the BG tariff against others but it's beaten on standing charges by most of the companies listed above?!

[Deleted User]

As I've said, the tariff is aimed at average users so might not fit your consumption pattern.

Your quote is what it is and mine was what it was. The collectives cannot beat everyone's current deal, it just goes for the majority.

I've had quotes from all the last collective deals for the last 7 months and my 6 month old collective electric tariff has not been bettered yet by any electric only tariff. That's the way it goes, I'm still saving money and know I cannot do any better (and have not been able to for the last 6 months)

misterzim

That's fine if that's how it is, I actually enjoy doing the searching/comparison work myself (sadly!), but I don't agree that MSE/CEC should quote that the collective switch winning tariff is "cheaper than the cheapest energy" because in my case it's not!!

Nada666

misterzim wrote: »

That's fine if that's how it is, I actually enjoy doing the searching/comparison work myself (sadly!), but I don't agree that MSE/CEC should quote that the collective switch winning tariff is "cheaper than the cheapest energy" because in my case it's not!!

Solipsistic innumerate silliness or simple sarcasm? Who can tell, nowadays?

There are standards. They are published. The headlined headlines (probably) comply with them. I'm not sure what alternative solution you are proposing or expecting.

molerat

You must have a seriously weird usage split to get such a large discrepancy. What are your annual kWh figures ? The electric is v cheap and the gas not so cheap.

misterzim

2027 kWh electric & 10248 kWh gas.

Solipsistic innumerate silliness or simple sarcasm? Who can tell, nowadays?

- what is this in reference to exactly?

I was merely querying the use of the cheaper than the cheapest energy headline.

molerat

For my area they come out on top with that use.