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Rail Byelaw 14

Hi,

I have recently received a PCN on a rail station carpark, the previous PCN i received at this site has been discussed on another thread, however this one has different wording to the previous one and advises that:

"this car park is regulated by the terms and conditions of parking displayed at the car park in accordance with Rail Byelaw 14. By entering the car park you have agreed and are contracted to be legally bound by those terms and conditions"

I have done some reading and from what i can gather, rail byelaw's can be more complicated. My previous appeal on this land was referred to POPLA, and one prior to that was won on the 'landowners permission' argument.

Can someone advise how I should respond to this please?
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  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    name of parking co please
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  • dr1981_2
    dr1981_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
    It is Indigo
  • pappa_golf
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    ping pong , as you are aware , by laws are different and only the land owner (or solicitors) can bring charges , not the PPC , and they only have 6 mths to do this


    take up a sport , second class ping pong , ask many questions and await many replies


    PS , what was the offence? (exact)
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  • dr1981_2
    dr1981_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
    Thanks Pappa Golf. The offence was Failing to display a valid ticket or voucher
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,326 Forumite
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    Respond the same way as the other one. Use the template in the NEWBIES thread around day 25 as normal, then at POPLA stage you will also have the added appeal point that there can be no keeper liability as this land appears to be covered by bylaws and as such, it is not 'relevant land' for keeper liability under the POFA.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • dr1981_2
    dr1981_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
    Thanks Coupon-Mad, I will do that. Can i ask why its best to appeal around day 25?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,326 Forumite
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    Says so in the NEWBIES thread! And it's important to know why you are delaying it and why you aren't naming the driver.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    please also remember that there is no such offence under railway bylaws 14 , as failing to display.


    there is an offence of failure to buy , but not one of failure to sisplay
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  • dr1981_2
    dr1981_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
    Cheers Pappa Golf, that is useful to know, i will build that in to my appeal. Thanks Coupon Mad, I will reread the newbies thread
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    no , no no ................


    appeal as per CMs comments , SAY NOTHING about bylaws , SAY NOTHING


    let them think you are Mr gullible and stupid , lets see if they give you a POPLa code , chances are they will not.


    however it all takes time , and you have all the time in the world (upto 6 months) then you can tell them to "do one"


    say nothing at the moment , remember , (after 1st letter by POP 1st class) you go into second class ping pong mode


    DO NOT name the driver
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
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