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Section 21 notice served
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I guess because a court has already has instructed the tenant that they must vacate the premises.
Indeed, the tenant has already been notified of the court decision, which includes an order to leave the property by a specific date.
The way bailiffs must operate does nothing apart from undermining court orders as tenants (and local authorities) focus on the bailiffs' notice instead of the court order.0 -
The point of the notice is so that everyone gets a good result. It's not about punishing the tenant, that's not what the court is there to do.
So what is the punishment for ignoring court orders? Surely that isn't the way one should behave?Some councils wont act until bailiffs notice is received, or in extreme cases when bailiffs are actually there.
Got nothing to do with me as a landord, apart from costing me money in most cases.Why make the situation more tense than it already is?
Again, only one person that can prevent that, and that's the one ignoring a court order.
They have had several months notice prior to bailiffs turning up, so no tears would be shed by me.Well life is harsh, hug me don't reject me.0 -
So what is the punishment for ignoring court orders? Surely that isn't the way one should behave?
- Contempt of court, however the order needs to be enforced first. That's just the way the law is. You may not like it, which I can understand. But isn't it punishment enough for the tenant to be forced to move, in many cases through no fault of their own?
Got nothing to do with me as a landord, apart from costing me money in most cases.
- Right. But you'd be happy to see the tenants on the street with possessions flung out by the bailiffs? I mean that seems unjustly cruel for whatever 'offence' you think the tenant has committed.
Again, only one person that can prevent that, and that's the one ignoring a court order.
- As I said, in many cases the council simply wont act until that point. That's not the tenants fault, go petition your MP to act if you wish.
They have had several months notice prior to bailiffs turning up, so no tears would be shed by me.
Well then my opinion of you is significantly lower than prior to reading this post.0 -
Yes, I would gladly pay the CC bailiff a supplement to have exactly that happen.
Well then sir, you are a very special kind of person; if you get off on seeing people in already difficult situations humiliated and effectively destroyed for simply being too poor to move.
(thankfully the law doesn't allow this - and so this will simply continue to be an aspiration of yours)0 -
In any case the tenant has advance notice of the eviction: This is the court order and it includes a deadline (as said).
Therefore, arguing that advance notice by bailiffs is necessary not to make things 'too hard' on tenants is just nonsensical.
Councils do not act on the court order because, as I wrote previously, they know that nothing will happen until bailiffs send notice.
If evictions took place quickly after the expiry of the court order, without further notice they would focus on the court order.0 -
Miss_Samantha wrote: »In any case the tenant has advance notice of the eviction: This is the court order and it includes a deadline (as said).
Therefore, arguing that advance notice by bailiffs is necessary not to make things 'too hard' on tenants is just nonsensical.
It's not when you consider that it's likely the tenants haven't left already is because they cant afford to and are probably waiting for help from the council.
The council wont help until the tenant is evicted in many cases, and so the tenant is left in limbo. Much easier for the LL, the bailiffs and the tenant if the tenant can arrange a van, some helping hands and have everything packed for the day than cause a huge amount of upset, delay the actual eviction and potentially cause an altercation between the parties.
Does a LL really want a vengeful tenant on their case? I genuinely don't see the merit for anyone involved.0 -
Miss_Samantha wrote: »In any case the tenant has advance notice of the eviction: This is the court order and it includes a deadline (as said).
Therefore, arguing that advance notice by bailiffs is necessary not to make things 'too hard' on tenants is just nonsensical.
Councils do not act on the court order because, as I wrote previously, they know that nothing will happen until bailiffs send notice.
If evictions took place quickly after the expiry of the court order, without further notice they would focus on the court order.
This bit I agree with, but it's hardly something a tenant can change. It requires a change of policy across the board.0 -
Well then sir, you are a very special kind of person; if you get off on seeing people in already difficult situations humiliated and effectively destroyed for simply being too poor to move.
I don't quite understand how they sudddenly get rich enough to move when bailiffs turn up.
They have a £355 possession order, and a £110 bailiffs costs to pay(in most cases).
All which could have been avoided in the months they have been sitting on their hands.(thankfully the law doesn't allow this - and so this will simply continue to be an aspiration of yours)
I would need a source, as the only reference I have seen of this is your previous post:Bailiffs always give notice, and I believe recently high court EO's have been instructed that previously they were incorrect in not providing notice.Well life is harsh, hug me don't reject me.0 -
If a tenant cannot afford to move now, it won't change in a couple of weeks.
Eviction will happen, adding notices after notices does not help the tenant, it only adds costs for everyone.This bit I agree with, but it's hardly something a tenant can change. It requires a change of policy across the board.
Obviously, no-one argued otherwise.0
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