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Mystery Collapse in Volumes...

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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Localised anomalies? Maybe noone wants to move to (or out of) [Stockport?]


    stockport

    Jan - Oct 2015 = 4338 sales
    Jan - Oct 2014 = 4185 sales

    so its more to do with wrong information
  • Stockport is a Shi it hole
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  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    How many of those mortgage approvals are remortgage approvals?

    None.

    Remortgages are calculated separately.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • cells wrote: »
    its simply not true that volumes have crashed

    Jan --> Oct 2015 = 776,000
    Jan --> Oct 2014 = 765,000

    Virtually the same for England&Wales

    SK14 - Oct 2014 766 properties on the market
    Dec 2014 643
    Oct 2015 570
    Dec 2015 506

    Would you not describe these numbers as a major drop in volumes?

    I did say from the start I was referring to my local area, I admit I haven't studied the national figures but I've certainly seen enough headlines claiming that numbers of properties on the market are at record lows.
  • danothy
    danothy Posts: 2,200 Forumite
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    Again, I'm not trying to be pedantic (I appreciate you posting the graphic) but regardless of the numbers of completions the fact remains that volumes are well down... it just means that those buyers that are completing have a far narrower selection to choose from!

    If the number of sales (completions) is not down, then volume is not down. The same volume of properties are selling. If less properties really are for sale and the number of sales is the same then that implies that the previous excess went unsold. Maybe this is why they suddenly decided not to market them?
    If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.
  • Stockport is a Shi it hole

    Yes, yes it is.... so why does nobody want to sell their house and get away from there!:rotfl:
  • danothy
    danothy Posts: 2,200 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    SK14 - Oct 2014 766 properties on the market
    Dec 2014 643
    Oct 2015 570
    Dec 2015 506

    Would you not describe these numbers as a major drop in volumes?

    Not really, considering that SK13 and SE14 average about 100 sales a month combined consistently.
    If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    its simply not true that volumes have crashed

    Jan --> Oct 2015 = 776,000
    Jan --> Oct 2014 = 765,000

    Virtually the same for England&Wales

    How may new properties were built in 2015.

    In 2014

    In 2013

    In 2012

    In 2011
  • danothy wrote: »
    If the number of sales (completions) is not down, then volume is not down.

    I'm struggling to understand what you mean by this, are you saying that the percentage of sales/completions always remains the same regardless of the numbers of properties on the market?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 1 February 2016 at 10:47PM
    I'm struggling to understand what you mean by this, are you saying that the percentage of sales/completions always remains the same regardless of the numbers of properties on the market?

    When people talk about "volumes" being down, they mean the number of transactions....

    So actual completed sales.

    It is demonstrably the case that the number of transactions is gently rising and has been in an uptrend since 2009 .

    You appear to be talking about available stock being listed for sale.

    And yes, that is down markedly.
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