Landlord controls heating and bans portable heaters

captainjon

G_M wrote: »

Are you a lodger or a tenant?

Is this an HMO?

Im a tenant in a HMO

captainjon

missbiggles1 wrote: »

The OP's LL has said no electric heaters.

You could buy a calor gas heater - they're efficient and use no electricity.

Its a balance between my landlords fear of fire and not wanting a higher bill on that one.

captainjon

Aside from the wear jumpers comments, do i have a legal recourse here?

trevormax

So is your landlord living in the same building?

gazter

captainjon wrote: »

Im a tenant in a HMO

If the landlord lives there, and you dont have a tenancy agreement, it might be that you are a lodger not a tenant.

moneyistooshorttomention

If it's the landlords home - then they will (presumably) have the central heating set at a temperature they personally find comfortable.

It may be that their central heating needs amending - different radiators (even in the same size) cast out different amounts of heat.

Personally - I'd go in for finding out what the objective facts are to start with re the level of heating.

a. There are online calculators out there to work out what size of radiator is needed for a room (bearing in mind its size/number of windows/number of outside walls) and I had a radiator swopped in my home for being inadequate after checking that.

b. A thermometer to establish temperature. Age UK/Age Concern (don't know the name - as I'm in the Welsh bit of Britain - so its called ageCymru) have a freebie paper thermometer thing that I have a copy of. You place the card upright in room concerned and it will tell you the rough temperature the room is. It's graded as:
9C - risk of hypothermia
12C - too cold
15C - chilly (risk of respiratory illness)
18C - comfortable house temperature
21C - ideal living room temperature
24C - reduce heat, but stay warm
27C - hot - you can overheat

So - I make sure my heating is such that it stays at 18-21C. I have been wondering whether my lounge is too cold - but discovered that it was "me" - as the card indicates its 21C.

I'm finding this useful as an objective guide when other people state that somewhere is "warm enough" and I have the objective proof that it isn't and more heat is needed.

captainjon

the landlord doesnt live there, but does have an office in a room, so pops in.

captainjon

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

If it's the landlords home - then they will (presumably) have the central heating set at a temperature they personally find comfortable.

It may be that their central heating needs amending - different radiators (even in the same size) cast out different amounts of heat.

Personally - I'd go in for finding out what the objective facts are to start with re the level of heating.

a. There are online calculators out there to work out what size of radiator is needed for a room (bearing in mind its size/number of windows/number of outside walls) and I had a radiator swopped in my home for being inadequate after checking that.

b. A thermometer to establish temperature. Age UK/Age Concern (don't know the name - as I'm in the Welsh bit of Britain - so its called ageCymru) have a freebie paper thermometer thing that I have a copy of. You place the card upright in room concerned and it will tell you the rough temperature the room is. It's graded as:
9C - risk of hypothermia
12C - too cold
15C - chilly (risk of respiratory illness)
18C - comfortable house temperature
21C - ideal living room temperature
24C - reduce heat, but stay warm
27C - hot - you can overheat

So - I make sure my heating is such that it stays at 18-21C. I have been wondering whether my lounge is too cold - but discovered that it was "me" - as the card indicates its 21C.

I'm finding this useful as an objective guide when other people state that somewhere is "warm enough" and I have the objective proof that it isn't and more heat is needed.

If its 18C when the heatings on, but its only on for 2 hours, does that still count?

captainjon

trevormax wrote: »

So is your landlord living in the same building?

no, just has an office. i actually dont think he's licenced either, no tenancy agreement, payment by paypal, double rent in advance with a month back at the end, no address given etc.

missbiggles1

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Buy an electric powered oil filled radiator.

How is that not an electric heater?