New colleague let slip their salary....

getmore4less

Whenever a place recruit for your job check the ads and even get friends to enquire salary.

Also review market rates regularly.

It helps to add to the I am worth more because discussion.

sangie595

ktb wrote: »

They obviously had an exceptional reason during the recruitment difficulties - but that just demonstrates that the role is obviously worth that to them.

Part of the context of the conversation with my colleague, was that the advert for this job was listed at £22k - do you think that I can say to my employer that I am aware of this and based on my performance (I scored 2nd highest in the company at performance review in Sept) I want to request that amount?

You are demonstrating that they needed your colleague. Not that they needed you, because they already have you. Bottom line here is, your best bargaining chip is another job. Because without being able to say that you are leaving (and without bluffing) why should they pay you more than agreed?

ktb

sangie595 wrote: »

You are demonstrating that they needed your colleague. Not that they needed you, because they already have you. Bottom line here is, your best bargaining chip is another job. Because without being able to say that you are leaving (and without bluffing) why should they pay you more than agreed?

It is very interesting that you say this sangie595 as I almost posted earlier that I have indeed been offered another job on more money (my husband's company called me in out of the blue - I wasn't looking) but the hours don't really suit me and in honesty, I wasn't really considering taking it. The discovery of the discrepancies in the salaries has me wondering now though.

I didn't mention it earlier as I didn't initiate this thread because I want to hold a gun to their heads... but I am now wondering if I need to mention my alternative job offer to them. I'm fairly certain they wouldn't want to lose me.

Snakey

You should never bluff unless you are prepared to see it through - what if they say "well, we'll be sorry to see you go, but we quite understand"?

getmore4less

Also look at why they now need another person.

how much has the work load grown on a Sat to justify 1 more person

sangie595

ktb wrote: »

It is very interesting that you say this sangie595 as I almost posted earlier that I have indeed been offered another job on more money (my husband's company called me in out of the blue - I wasn't looking) but the hours don't really suit me and in honesty, I wasn't really considering taking it. The discovery of the discrepancies in the salaries has me wondering now though.

I didn't mention it earlier as I didn't initiate this thread because I want to hold a gun to their heads... but I am now wondering if I need to mention my alternative job offer to them. I'm fairly certain they wouldn't want to lose me.

Fine - if you want to play tough then you tell them you have another job (assuming you do!). Then the play is on their side. If you are prepared to loose. But if you are seriously thinking about leaving, then you have nothing to lose.

piccybabes

Somebody far wiser than me once told me...








"You don't get paid what you deserve, you get paid what you negotiate".

BigAunty

Is it generally only the Civil service or public sector roles that put all staff on the same pay her grade or is that not the case?

Reminds me of the time I was offered promotion to a vacant role in the private sector when my senior colleague left who earned around 10k more. The manager told me that a pay increase would be capped at a small percentage of my salary (can't remember if it was 5 or 9%) but it was in single figures and only a couple of grand more than I earned. I left the organisation.

hcb42

For a salary banding as wide as this, this feels bizarre..

DKLS wrote: »

I wouldn't request a salary review, based on the fact you colleague earns more, if you presented that to me saying its unfair because x gets higher, It wouldn't reach HR and would be filed in the bin.

I set up a team last year for a client, 20 similar roles, with a salary band of 22-45k.
There was two types of candidates I interviewed.

1. Candidates who would just do the interview and never mention salary, they started on 22k
2. Candidates who negotiated and justified salary, they started on 35k +
All candidates had a non disclosure clause about their salary figures to avoid unnecessary hassle.

I had the budget to pay everyone the higher salary if required, but some people just don't try, strange but they don't.

If I was you, I would ask for a pay rise at your next annual review backed up with why your worth it.

xapprenticex

Imagine if the person you spoke to came here to start an "I accidentally revealed how much I get paid" thread.