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Roof leak in newly purchased house
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I am guessing a Scottish Home Report i.e. a seller's survey, roughly equivalent to a homebuyer's report so you'd expect them to look in the loft etc if accessible.
Oops, Double post as above deletedThe world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon0 -
Which isn't what's being discussed here, at all.
You're selling your house. The loft is full of your stuff. When the buyer's surveyor comes around, do you want him to empty that loft, move all your furniture, lift all your carpets, poke holes in all your walls?
If a house is in good condition, 95% of it IS boiler-plate explanation and !!!!-covering. It's really only the exceptions which need to be actually covered.
The OP is suggesting now that the roof tiles were cracked, which should have been visible with binoculars. Something every surveyor should own. I think the dipstick analogy works.
The caveats are left in the proforma whether whether the loft is empty or not. They simply don't enter lofts in case they get their suit dirty.
I had a number of caveats in my last survey that were factually incorrect. Like furniture being in the way in a vacant house. Or saying it wasn't raining when it was.
I don't think there's a lot of transparency about what you're getting for your £1,000. I know why most ask for their money up front."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
Perhaps I should have caveated that post with an expectation that you were hiring a surveyor who met a certain minimum level of competence and diligence, rather than an idle skiving git who couldn't be bothered to do the job he was being paid for. I did expect that would be taken as read, but...0
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If it is a Scottish home buyers report?
"Home Report", rather than "home buyers report".
They go a bit further than that, taken from the last one I got:It is a visual report, they check the roof from outside with binoculars etcSloping roofs were visually inspected with the aid of binoculars where appropriate. Flat roofs were visually inspected from vantage points within the property and where safe and reasonable to do so from a 3m ladder externally. Roof spaces were visually inspected and were entered where there was safe and reasonable access, normally defined as being from a 3m ladder within the property. If this is not possible, then physical access to the roof space may be taken by other means if the Surveyor deems it safe and reasonable to do so.
Almost nobody does though. If they did, they would encounter much the same caveats as above (at least in relation to leaky roofs). The only second opinions tend to arise if a mortgage lender wants their own valuation - in which case it's restricted to the scheme 1 survey requirements.Most buyers if serious, should get their own independent ones done0 -
"Home Report", rather than "home buyers report".
They go a bit further than that, taken from the last one I got:
Almost nobody does though. If they did, they would encounter much the same caveats as above (at least in relation to leaky roofs). The only second opinions tend to arise if a mortgage lender wants their own valuation - in which case it's restricted to the scheme 1 survey requirements.
Yes it is a "Home Report" for buyers but paid for by seller.
Quote 3 says it all really
Surveyor checks where possible? 3m ladder etc all get out clauses?
Op states Slates cracked, perhaps easy missed from exterior but damp patch internal should have flagged up problem.
Do not think Op can get any recourse from surveyor and should get leak repaired now ASAPThe world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon0 -
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Yes it is a "Home Report" for buyers but paid for by seller.
Quote 3 says it all really
Surveyor checks where possible? 3m ladder etc all get out clauses?
Op states Slates cracked, perhaps easy missed from exterior but damp patch internal should have flagged up problem.
Do not think Op can get any recourse from surveyor and should get leak repaired now ASAP
Well technically, the surveyor is negligent if they should have spotted the cracked tiles when conducting their job with a reasonable amount of skill and care. Normally cracked tiles can be spotted from the ground with binoculars. Crack tiles + damp patch. I would have expected to to say evidence suggests roof is leaking.
I'm not sure how it works giving the seller paid for the survey.
But the cost of replacing a tile is minimal, so it's not worth the hassle of pushing this further anyway."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
The survey said slight dampness was detected in plasterboard ceiling in living room and thy was it.
Didn't this ring any alarm bells? Did you ask why there was damp in a ceiling?...been rotting for months if not years and I due to cracked slates...
First step, get the tiles replaced. Apparently, that should fix your leaking roof. Whether you'd want to claim the cost of that through the Courts against the vendor or surveyor is up to you but personally, considering the cost of buying a house, I'd simply get on with my life.The damp in roof is clearly visible by looking in loft space - you don't actually have to go inside
So, presumably, you too looked in the roof space and didn't just buy the property based on a report paid for by the seller? If it's clearly visible how did you miss it?0 -
If you took your car for an MOT, the mechanic would be expected to check the oil levels.
I don't think checking oil level is part of the MOT procedure, I've never seen this done when I've taken my car for its MOT. If I took the car in for a service, I would expect them to change the oil rather than check its level.If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales0
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