Is this racism/legal?

sangie595

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

coming over here stealing our jobs.....grrrrrrrrrr

Quite apart from demonstrating your own bigotry, all the OP has said is that all the people employed by this subcontractor aren't from "this country". I have no idea what "this country" is for the OP, but assuming it may be, for example, Scotland, then that leaves the entire of the rest of the world, including the rest of the United Kingdom (which is not a country). It also assumes that this group of people were not born in the country or are not citizens of the country, in which case they have come nowhere - they would already be "here". Ethnicity and nationality are nowhere near the same thing.

Johnnytwostep

sangie595 wrote: »

Quite apart from demonstrating your own bigotry, all the OP has said is that all the people employed by this subcontractor aren't from "this country". I have no idea what "this country" is for the OP, but assuming it may be, for example, Scotland, then that leaves the entire of the rest of the world, including the rest of the United Kingdom (which is not a country). It also assumes that this group of people were not born in the country or are not citizens of the country, in which case they have come nowhere - they would already be "here". Ethnicity and nationality are nowhere near the same thing.

coming over here stealing our jobs...grrrrrrr

RichardD1970

sangie595 wrote: »

Quite apart from demonstrating your own bigotry, all the OP has said is that all the people employed by this subcontractor aren't from "this country". I have no idea what "this country" is for the OP, but assuming it may be, for example, Scotland, then that leaves the entire of the rest of the world, including the rest of the United Kingdom (which is not a country). It also assumes that this group of people were not born in the country or are not citizens of the country, in which case they have come nowhere - they would already be "here". Ethnicity and nationality are nowhere near the same thing.

I read Johnnytwostep's post was a tongue in cheek remark, aimed at the perceived bigotry in the OP.

tomtontom

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

coming over here stealing our jobs...grrrrrrr

Or are they doing the jobs "our" people think they are too good for?

Johnnytwostep

tomtontom wrote: »

Or are they doing the jobs "our" people think they are too good for?

what you mean 'we', good old union jack shorts wearing, bulldog holding, fish and chip eating people cant just walk into a CEO job.......shocking!!!

TELLIT01

I know there were problems in my home area with recruitment agencies who only recruited staff from eastern Europe. If an agency had attempted to restrict recruitment to UK nationals the authorities would have been down on them like a ton of bricks.
If any employer has a large workforce all from one nation, other than the host nation, it should raise questions of discrimination at the very least. There may be a perfectly valid reason, but the questions should be asked.

bugslet

Where I work we are a 100% white british - simply because there's only ever been one person of another ethnicity or colour apply ( he got the job but left after 3 weeks). At one point , the business to the right of me employed about 80% Southern Irish and the garage next door but one, were 100% Pakistani.

I guess that most people are happy with those they know best, jsut the way it is.

Savvy_Sue

public sector organisations will usually have a policy about where to advertise and will try to ensure that they are not unintentionally discriminating. For example, for some years our city had an organisation with Black in its title, and one of their aims was to get non-white-British people into employment. Because we wanted not to discriminate unintentionally we used to advertise all our jobs with them as well as in all the places we first thought of.

When I was working for a housing association we used similar methods to advertise our jobs widely. BUT when we needed a temp, a message came round asking if anyone knew anyone interested, and my friend got the job. We did not have time to go through the normal process for a job lasting a month with an immediate start needed. So we got someone else like me, which can only be a good thing. ;-)

There is no legislation that requires jobs to be advertised at all. Nor is there any requirement to advertise jobs where the full range of the population will get to see them. To go back to what I said before, if the company with the contract only advertise their jobs in Lilliputian, I don't believe they are breaking the law, as long as they don't say 'only Lilliputians need apply'. Obviously, not being fluent in Lilliputian, and not mixing in circles where Lilliputian is spoken, and not frequenting Lilliputian shops / clubs / cafes, I'm not going to see this advert, never mind understand it.

Now, suppose my Lilliputian boyfriend suggests I apply, has a word with the boss and teaches me enough Lilliputian to struggle through an interview. I get the job, and I'm surrounded by Lilliputians who prefer to chat in their own language and don't care to change that for the odd one out. How long am I likely to stay? They might be perfectly lovely people, but I just don't fit in. So I leave after a few months.

And the boss has to recruit again. What's he going to do, look for English speakers or go for more Lilliputians, without explicitly advertising for them?

It's also possible that the company providing the service is recruiting in Lilliput rather than in the UK.

bugslet

I think Savvy-sue that the wo business that I mentioned along with our own, probably don't advertise, it's usually word of mouth in a lot of relatively small businesses.

The company that employed mostly Southern Irish were indeed diggin roads up for utility companys - no stereotyping there then:D

Gavin83

sangie595 wrote: »

including the rest of the United Kingdom (which is not a country)

I'd actually say the complete opposite. I'd consider the United Kingdom a country but not Scotland, or England for that matter. Certainly when I'm asked how many countries I've been to I consider all 4 places as 1 entry. There is no real right answer to this though and depends on who you ask.

To the OP, just being curious for a second is the ethnicity of the employees Indian and the job IT related in some way?