Dimplex electric heating options

Murtle

Cardew wrote: »

What do you mean by 'sockets'? Are they normal 13 amp sockets like you would use for, say, a kettle?


What rating are they e.g 1.7kW.


How do you know they are kaput? Could it be that they are simply inadequate for the task?

They have a cable that goes into the wall, not a 3 pin socket like a kettle uses.

They are kaput because they don't heat up properly, we have lived with them for years, and tried many things but the damn things never get properly warm. Then they loose what heat they have very quickly. They were the original heaters put in when the flats were built many many years ago! Apparently they were great then...

Murtle

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

In nearly 50 years of NSCH I've only had one stat go. In 50 years I've never heard of more than one go at the same time. In all that 50 years I've heard of very few instances of them breaking down from others. I know that a stat is cheap and element is cheap and a fuse is cheap, so you could renew all elements of both heaters for £200 and get another 50 years out of them. Most issues with NSCH are from those who do not know how to use them correctly and efficiently. You have an existing ring main, just extend your existing dedicated 20a ring and fit a new what you call switch which costs about £5 quid from Screwfix. They DIY re-paint, any colour of the rainbow for about £10 per heater.
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Your answer on Dimplex is .. .. whole house and money no object go Quantum. A much more workable and very considerably cheaper solution go Duo, the DUO in addition to the stored heat has a separate front facing 13a panel radiator built into it. The 13a radiant can be thermostat controlled and automatic or a simple on demand from yourself, both are core rate expensive daytime electricity.



The biggest of the 3 DUO's is the Duo500n which holds about 18kWh which is less than the 24kWh you already have [I assume] at your disposal. Some extra benefit on leeching will be had from the DUO however not sufficient I fear to make up for the 6kWh loss from your existing 16 bricker let alone supplying the extra storage which is what you clearly do need. Now Murtle I've no idea what heaters you have, what your EPC is, what you lifestyle, needs and uses are, what your tariff is. You can have cheap or expensive electric heat, how much cheap heat you can possibly have is determined by how much you store, that is very particular to the retired. Apart from going off grid, becoming a spoon whittler and buying a wood burner the only other alternative is to change tariff from the cheaper E7 to the more expensive E10. best of luck.

Thank you :T

This is really helpful. Unfortunately we have no more space to add additional heaters as it's a small flat.

Now, I like the idea of being a spoon whittler, but only in the summer!!

I will review the dimples options now I understand them a bit more.

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Swipe

Murtle wrote: »

They are kaput because they don't heat up properly, we have lived with them for years, and tried many things but the damn things never get properly warm. Then they loose what heat they have very quickly. They were the original heaters put in when the flats were built many many years ago! Apparently they were great then...

It sounds like some of the heating elements in them may have failed over time. If that is the case, expect larger bills when you get your replacement heaters.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Elements should read just short of 20 ohms if its much more is goosed .. .. an 850W replacement [they all are] element costs between £10-£20. make sure you get the right fitting pin/spade choice for the unit. Fitting is easy - best of luck.

oldhenry

I have two heater made by Elnur and these were much cheaper than any others but work fine. The most important feature of this type of heating is insulate you property well.For small heaters you could just plug them into a ring main socket with a timer set to the correct night time range you have. No other electricity is being used at night and you will not exceed the 30 amp ring main rating. That is how we keep mine and my wife's study warm in the day in winter. We use the gas central heating in the evening

Richie-from-the-Boro

Murtle and many others over each period make the same post wanting more heat without giving up real estate that occupies their furniture. For myself stored heat at 30% the cost of on-demand heat wins over furniture but we all understand and sympathise with the plight that Murtle has been put into by the UK housing small-box living space standards.

Comfort, the word I'll leave till another day, but temperature as we understand the word in 'living area' terms has changed over the last recent decades from a minimum 12 in the '70's to 18°C these days for those who are adequately dressed and 20°C for respiratory, allergic, sick, disabled, very old or very young.

Generally any heating design puts in the cheapest possible system, certainly this is the case for NSCH which tended to be social housing sector funded poor quality urban built homes trying to squeeze in" as many units as they can into each build site. So at installation point the heated room had a requirement to store sufficient for 16°C [ish] over the release time of 17 hours. Fast forward to today and the additional °C needs additional bricks so a current 16 bricker panel of 712 x 1650 is going to need to be 180mm higher ~or~ 216mm wider to deliver the storage needed with only x1 NSH unit.

This design change would bring the domestic UK °C heating norms to 2016-2050, and solve the cramped UK small living minimum space standards of 43 square meters for social housing, which covers council and housing association properties.