Time sheets and deduction of wages (absence)

sangie595

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

If NMW then no they can't.

Yes they can - providing there is no coercion to work the other 55 minutes. Employers frequently have specific payroll periods, and if you are late then you lose the whole of that time period. Wages cannot be managed in minutes based on people deciding to get in a minute or two late. So if you are due in at 8am and don't arrive until 8:30, if the payroll period is one hour, then you will not start being paid until 9am. But you also cannot be forced to work until 9am either. On the other hand, if you walk in late and start working, then that is no different than staying on after finishing time, or working through a break - your choice, unless the employer makes you do it.

specialboy

red_eye wrote: »

Ok poor choice of words, I have been on time that better? What are you an employer? Seem hell bent on giving me a lecture. let me tell you I don't care if late is late and there's no excuse if I have to take time off for my child I will they can try and stop even try to make my live hell my family will come first

If you want to put your family first I suggest you start getting to work on time so that you can keep a wage coming in to feed and clothe them. No good biting the hand that feeds you (and your family)

theoretica

red_eye wrote: »

Regarding ppe well where there's a blame there's a claim. Really I just be careful it means a half day job can take a day and the welds are messy might lack penatration and might fall off on the motorway, all I can do is request ppe and hope for the best.

'Might fall off on the motorway' sounds dangerous to me - and if you should know that you are doing dangerous work a claim could upset your life, not just your employers.

red_eye wrote: »

Just wanted to know a bit more about time sheet and how they are ment to be used, what to do when it's wrong etc etc.

Time sheets are internal to an orgnisation, and even within one organisation there may be several different ways of using them.

red_eye

red_eye wrote: »

Is that all you got? did it make you feel good?

Rereading that I think I was a little.. Well I apologise.

TELLIT01

You need to speak to your employer to find out why the working hours information they hold doesn't tally with the hours you have worked. That's the only way you are going to get the matter resolved. Without knowing the wording of your contract of employment & the actual start and finish times for the dates in question, there is no way to say whether or not the employer has acted correctly.

red_eye

daytona0 wrote: »

*sigh* Why post then?



Well, if you are referring to the fact that a box is allocated to you signing it then bear in mind that you haven't signed off any previous wages. If you want to go the jobsworth route then maybe you have to pay back all of the previous wages because you haven't signed off on them (they'll pay you back once you have signed off)! What to do when it's legitimately wrong = complain (nicely) to your employer and bear in mind your circumstances.



The post wasn't focused on the PPE, it was a side note.... That aside, you should really seek a job with good PPE (or buy your own stuff!!) if that is a major concern. ALSO, to have the 'blame-claim' attitude is a bit reckless IF there is even a slight danger of it causing serious injury. No amount of money can replace the care you give your children.



Who decided that? Because I'm not convinced that the company wouldn't prefer to have you working that day you lose! It comes across that they've made a really generous adjustment for you!

its not the company its the new manager, previously I could swap my day off now I have to take holiday when needed but as all my holidays are all used up its unpaid. I have half completed flexy time request stored on my PC. I got to the part where I tell them what the impact of my request would be to the company then I thought why bother as there would be no negative impact To me swapping my day off compared to me taking two days, I'll let them get back to me.

red_eye

FBaby wrote: »

Are you sure you are not late by say 5mns regularly, and that they decided to deduct a whole hour each time. No idea if they can do that, but that could explain the discrepancy. Until you speak to your manager, you won't know though, so you need to start with getting clarity as to what happened and then inquire whether it was legal or not, rather than going at it the other way.

im on time a minute or two either way. I have to be the first one to turn on the compressor as no one empties the water and my air gun is the only one in the workshop

red_eye

getmore4less wrote: »

Unless they include you in the time sheet process they are none of your business just the companies.

Don't just asume the 9 hours are deduction for a previous overpayment if it is it should be documented properly on pay slips.

Want more time with your kids resign.

It's nothing to do with wanting more time with my kids its my legal responsibility to care for and get them to school. shoud I resign because I want my kids to have an education?

If the time sheets are none of my business then why is there space for the employee and the manager to sign?

red_eye

specialboy wrote: »

If you want to put your family first I suggest you start getting to work on time so that you can keep a wage coming in to feed and clothe them. No good biting the hand that feeds you (and your family)

Only time I'm late is when I have to drop kids off to school sure I can call in at last Minuit and take the whole day as there was a brake down in child care but this is not this right is for and I would be dumping my work load on others

Besides its not the company its the manager!
If it was the company they should not have given me the job. from my cv to my interview I mentioned my kids even made sure that me having to start late and/or finish early when needed would not be a problem if it would be I would have walked out of the interview.

red_eye

theoretica wrote: »

'Might fall off on the motorway' sounds dangerous to me - and if you should know that you are doing dangerous work a claim could upset your life, not just your employers.



Time sheets are internal to an orgnisation, and even within one organisation there may be several different ways of using them.

When I say might I mean it really won't I'm not an a-hole. I tack everything together on the car and weld on the floor, takes more time but it's the only way to do it with out settin my self alight. But I do get the manager to hold things in place while I tack but he still hasn't got the message