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Urgent logbook help needed 😯
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Hi,
I bought a car from family in 2013, recently passed my test and realised the car had never been registered in my name with the DVLA. Today I sent off a v62 (request for log book) to the DVLA with the new keepers slip (as log book wasn't in car and family have lost it over the years) and was advised by a friend to date the purchase as 1 month ago as that is usual for log book requests. After looking more into insurance quotes I realised it's very much in my interest (over £1000 difference) to have 'bought the car' when I actually did...
Now I'm in a pickle, I realise the DVLA require people to inform them when a car is sold, which has not happened. However the car has been 'SORNED' since I 'bought' it, meaning there shouldn't be any tax related issues. However, is there any reason for the DVLA to fine or prosecute the person who I bought the car off (my family) for not notifying them of a change of ownership, given the cars been off the road and my just passed situation?
Thanks for any help
This means the difference between driving and not driving
I bought a car from family in 2013, recently passed my test and realised the car had never been registered in my name with the DVLA. Today I sent off a v62 (request for log book) to the DVLA with the new keepers slip (as log book wasn't in car and family have lost it over the years) and was advised by a friend to date the purchase as 1 month ago as that is usual for log book requests. After looking more into insurance quotes I realised it's very much in my interest (over £1000 difference) to have 'bought the car' when I actually did...
Now I'm in a pickle, I realise the DVLA require people to inform them when a car is sold, which has not happened. However the car has been 'SORNED' since I 'bought' it, meaning there shouldn't be any tax related issues. However, is there any reason for the DVLA to fine or prosecute the person who I bought the car off (my family) for not notifying them of a change of ownership, given the cars been off the road and my just passed situation?
Thanks for any help
This means the difference between driving and not driving

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I'd personally have rung the DVLA and asked their advice about the way to proceed, and just say:
"I sent the V5 off when I bought the car, but I've only just realised that
I've never received a new one in my name - perhaps it was lost in the post"0 -
Hi
Thanks for your help
I was thinking maybe ringing them, telling them I never received the v5 and only realised now after starting to fix the car etc and I sent a form away with a mistake on (saying I bought the car 1st Dec 2015) and say I bought it 1st Dec 2014?
I don't actually know the date I bought the car and 1 year ago takes the insurance quotes back to where I thought they would be..?
This is all very confusing 😂
Thanks again0 -
Hi
Thanks for your help
I was thinking maybe ringing them, telling them I never received the v5 and only realised now after starting to fix the car etc and I sent a form away with a mistake on (saying I bought the car 1st Dec 2015) and say I bought it 1st Dec 2014?
I don't actually know the date I bought the car and 1 year ago takes the insurance quotes back to where I thought they would be..?
This is all very confusing 😂
Thanks again
For the purposes of insurance, the date on the V5 doesn't mean much. Remember the V5 does not in ANY WAY imply ownership. If you have a receipt from the family member you bought the car off showing you bought it off them a year ago (or could get them to write you one now), that would be sufficient to show you've owned the car for that length of time.
V5 should have been changed at the time, but being the registered keeper does not mean the same thing as being the legal owner.0 -
BeenThroughItAll wrote: »"I sent the V5 off when I bought the car"
A new keeper does not send anything to the DVLA, the old and new keeper complete the relevant parts of the existing V5C, the old keeper gives the new keeper the green 'New Keeper Supplement' and notifies the DVLA of the transfer - either by e-mail or by sending the rest of the V5C to the DVLA. The new keeper waits for their V5C to arrive, if it does not arrive after 4 weeks, they can apply for it with a form V62.0 -
Rover_Driver wrote: »A new keeper does not send anything to the DVLA, the old and new keeper complete the relevant parts of the existing V5C, the old keeper gives the new keeper the green 'New Keeper Supplement' and notifies the DVLA of the transfer - either by e-mail or by sending the rest of the V5C to the DVLA. The new keeper waits for their V5C to arrive, if it does not arrive after 4 weeks, they can apply for it with a form V62.
Yes, OK, well spotted. I've only done it a few hundred times so I'm sorry I forgot. If we're going to be picky, though, I am unable to recall any reference to being able to notify DVLA by email of a change of keeper. You CAN do it online now, but not by email. You can email DVLA about a few things, though:
https://emaildvla.direct.gov.uk/emaildvla/cegemail/dvla/en/index.html
None of which include a keeper change - the emails generated are for enquiries about process only.
Colloquially though, people often say 'when I bought the car I sent off the logbook', meaning 'I filled in my details and left it with the seller' - and that's what I meant.
My point still stands, underneath the minor process error. The V5 has NOTHING TO DO WITH OWNERSHIP.0 -
Wasn't aware that when you bought the vehicle could affect the premium, especially as you haven't been using it.0
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Wasn't aware that when you bought the vehicle could affect the premium, especially as you haven't been using it.
Yep. If you buy a car and insure it the next day, the premium is often (not always) higher than if you've had it five years.
The thinking is that the longer you've owned the car, the more invested in its ownership you are, and the more likely you are to be used to it (so you're less likely to randomly crash because you can't handle the power/handling/etc), and more likely to 'love it' and be careful driving it.0 -
BeenThroughItAll wrote: »
The thinking is that the longer you've owned the car, the more invested in its ownership you are, and more likely to 'love it' and be careful driving it.
Conversely in reality you could be fed up with the vehicle and as it is 5 years older, not worry too much if it gets the odd scrape.If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales0 -
I have done insurance quotes in the past and found that if you want the policy to start next week it was a lot cheaper than having it start tomorrow.0
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lincroft1710 wrote: »Conversely in reality you could be fed up with the vehicle and as it is 5 years older, not worry too much if it gets the odd scrape.
Well yes, that's also true. No-one ever said insurance had to make sense though!0
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