MSE News: ’Women's state pension petition secures second Parliamentary debate

Goldiegirl

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Couldn't find that one.


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I'd find it for you, but I can't face looking at it all again!

Paul_Herring

Goldiegirl wrote: »

I'd find it for you, but I can't face looking at it all again!

I wouldn't bother - it's entirely consistent with some of the other arguments being proffered.

dunstonh

harz99 wrote: »

Agreed, but Ros Altman.................what a turncoat, used to be a pensioners champion, now a government lackey.

I'm not a fan of hers. She has always taken the view of her paymasters. She campaigned against annuities yet she used to represent a company (SAGA) that was limited panel on annuities.

However, this morning, she did seem to take the correct stance and i commend her for doing so. Though, one does suspect that she would be just as willing to say the opposite if the other side were paying her.

Paul_Herring

Oh - and on that £36,000? It's more than that..



One wonders if uprating of the pension was taken into account in that calculation - it does seem a rather round figure.

Uprating from this year by (exactly) 2.5%pa (the triple lock minimum) it's £38,511.66.

And I'm sure it could be over-egged further by adding on pretend interest it might, possibly, have accumulated if put into a savings or investment account. (Totally ignoring the fact that they'd actually be spending it since they clearly have no other source of income because they didn't plan ahead...)

And the moderators on that group clearly aren't doing their job - this has been up for 7 hours:

noh

Debate taking place now and can be viewed here
http://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bf878aac-b8e6-40a2-bc03-9bbe5254fc92

mystic_trev

noh wrote: »

Debate taking place now and can be viewed here
http://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bf878aac-b8e6-40a2-bc03-9bbe5254fc92

I watched the first 20 mins, before I decided to go and watch some paint dry instead.

Malthusian

I'm not a fan of hers. She has always taken the view of her paymasters. She campaigned against annuities yet she used to represent a company (SAGA) that was limited panel on annuities.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but that sounds like the opposite view of her paymasters in that case. The worst you can accuse her of is hypocrisy, but you could equally well say that she demonstrated independence of thought.

In this case of course she is entirely in the right. She is not "betraying pensioners". In the case of this particular group, if they succeed in getting their way, it will be other pensioners further down the line who will have to pay for it - along with everyone else.

Goldiegirl

Josephine Cumbo is tweeting the main points of the debate - may be better than watching it!

MP Richard Graham has talked some sense.

POPPYOSCAR

Well I am finding it very interesting.


Warrington North, very impressed by your MP and I never thought I would hear myself say that about a Labour MP.

bowlhead99

Goldiegirl wrote: »

Josephine Cumbo is tweeting the main points of the debate - may be better than watching it!

Her headline for the FT in the last half hour was "No new concessions for women hit by change in pension age"

Based on what she put in the article, it sounds like the debate was relatively similar to the backbench business committee meeting on 7 Jan, with various calls for government to apologise for a communication "shambles" and revisit transitional relief, and Shailesh Vara as undersecretary for work and pensions saying the government already considered concessions in 2011 and there were "no plans for any further transitional arrangements".

I didn't see the debate myself, too busy working to build up my NI credits.