Understanding a new parking restriction.

Guys_Dad

Here you are https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/222621/dg_191955.pdf

Page 46 and onwards. Free parking outside the restricted hours. See bottom left hand sign wording on page 46.

Coupon-mad

In theory then, it would not be possible for anyone that arrived before 9am to get a parking ticket before 2pm in any circumstance given this signage?

Yes unless they parked well outside of bay lines or more than 50cm from the kerb and the Council issues PCNs for those contraventions. Park close to the kerb, nicely within that bay and you are right.

man.united332

sorry again, but in the signage whats the meaning of 5 hours?

Coupon-mad

The blue P means 'parking' and you can do that for a maximum of 5 hours.

So that's a good thing, an example of 'soft' parking enforcement that stops commuters parking up for the entire day and catching a train to another City but doesn't restrict other people unnecessarily nor stop people parking altogether, nor does it make them pay for a permit.

Not bad, for Bristol.

man.united332

sorry to be a pain again but i am just trying to learn, the signage doesnt say you need to pay nor it says free so how do we know whether to pay or not? if its free parking how would the warden know that what time someone actually parked the car?

Andy_WSM

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Not bad, for Bristol.

I'd agree except the locals see it as a cynical ploy to make the students that leave their cars parked in the area pay for residents permits and the shop workers that park there for the day get business parking permits. I'm fortunate that I am an early riser so can likely get away before I am affected by the restrictions, but many others arrive there and walk to work for the day will now have to pay for (expensive) council parking nearby or buy all day parking permits for adjacent areas.

Guys_Dad

man.united332 wrote: »

sorry to be a pain again but i am just trying to learn, the signage doesnt say you need to pay nor it says free so how do we know whether to pay or not? if its free parking how would the warden know that what time someone actually parked the car?

I agree that when you are learning, it sometimes takes time to absorb things. But if you look at my first post in this thread, I did say that we need to see all the signs. That includes any pay for parking signs.

Andy replied "Anyway, to answer the questions asked of me - this is not a residents zone, there is no hourly fee payable and no further restrictions (at the moment) outside of the hours stated in my original post. My question seems to have been answered as I expected (and hoped)."

That would seem to answer your first question. As to how the warden would know how long you parked then some method of recording times 1st spotted would seem to be the answer, just as it is an any non ANPR car park.

Coupon-mad

man.united332 wrote: »

sorry to be a pain again but i am just trying to learn, the signage doesnt say you need to pay nor it says free so how do we know whether to pay or not? if its free parking how would the warden know that what time someone actually parked the car?

Council signs are confusing but the Highway code will explain more. The big blue 'P' tell you that you can park and the fact it doesn't then say 'pay and machine' or add any restrictions, tells you it is free. On street Council signs like that never say the really obvious 'free parking'!

CEOs (not wardens) come past and note in their pocket book, the time and where the valve position is on the kerbside wheels of each car. Then they stalk past again and again, and hey presto 5 hours and 30 seconds later they check the wheel valves are in the same place (or pretend they are) and then write out a PCN, hiding like a skulking thief in a doorway somewhere.

Andy_WSM wrote: »

I'd agree except the locals see it as a cynical ploy to make the students that leave their cars parked in the area pay for residents permits and the shop workers that park there for the day get business parking permits. I'm fortunate that I am an early riser so can likely get away before I am affected by the restrictions, but many others arrive there and walk to work for the day will now have to pay for (expensive) council parking nearby or buy all day parking permits for adjacent areas.

I feel for you!

Bristol and Brighton are so notorious, as well as some other cities, for a war on motorists. I remember that Parking Wars programme featuring Bristol Council totalling ignoring the wishes of the local shops & small businesses who had gone the right way about trying to achieve change but failed because the Council showed they couldn't give a damn about the shops nor drivers.