Garage with Insulation

controversy

I've been recently looking at concrete Garages and I was wondering if there are any products on the market to insulate these type of Garages.

Why do I need a insulated Garage?

I am a Aquaponics hobbyist. I will be putting 1000 Litre IBC containers into the Garage which will be filled with water and fish. I need the Garage to be able to prevent the water in these tanks getting to cold because it will slow down the activity of the fish inside. In other words I need the fish to be creating fish poop 247.

What is Aquaponics

Aquaponics is Organic Hydroponics. Instead of man made chemical feeding the plants fish waste feeds the plants instead.

Where will your plants be?

I will be pumping this water into a Lean to Greenhouse at the rear side of my home where it will feed a combination of Plankton(Algae), Duckweed and edible fruits, vegetables and salads.

Isn't this a bit to extreme for your normal 2 bed semi?

Yes it is but I am not your average person. I am a mentally challenged individual with the gift of a exceptionally high IQ. I want to be free to follow my love of Botanical Science & Aquaculture.

SplanK

You could always build a secondary wall within the garage (wood frame), then fill the gap between the concreate and the plasterboard?

Furts

With the weight of the water containers and the requirement for insulation I would regard it as foolish to consider a pre cast garage.

A properly designed, and built, bespoke garage would not cost much if you are savvy with the details. You could specify any U Value you wish, and draft proof and air tightness it to your requirements. It also has the potential to be more versatile and longer lasting.

xyz123

Furts wrote: »

With the weight of the water containers and the requirement for insulation I would regard it as foolish to consider a pre cast garage.

A properly designed, and built, bespoke garage would not cost much if you are savvy with the details. You could specify any U Value you wish, and draft proof and air tightness it to your requirements. It also has the potential to be more versatile and longer lasting.

Mostly right but OP to bear in mind when looking at similar situation for our garage recently (18 by 9), precast ones start from about 4k (including personnel door) with about another 1k on top for base. In London I was quoted at least 7k for block built and 9-10k for brick built. whilst no doubt whatsoever that the brick built will be versatile and better in general but it is not going to "not cost much...." Unless ofcourse OP can him/herself do much of work or get some friends to help if lucky...IMHO

Davesnave

I just ask the woman across the lane for her spare horse manure. That, combined with liquid feed from decomposing comfrey in large plastic drums, conditions my soil and adds fertilizer for crops. The cost is virtually zero.

The fish are in the nearby river. With legal permissions and techniques, they could be quite expensive to procure, even compared with those in the fishmonger's, but I have a few workarounds.....

Aquaponics is interesting, and certainly not just a load of carp, but there is more than one way to deviate from the norm, and mine's cheaper!

phil24_7

Or you could insulate a shed.

I built a concrete base (150-20mm thick and with no reinforcement) and erected a large metal shed on this. I then completely insulated the inside of this with 100mm cellotex and marine ply lined it. I insulated the floor and the back end of the shed again and put two IBc's with the tops cut off in this and insulated the front. After this I ply lined the IBC's so that they are boxed in with 2 holes cut in the top, slightly smaller than the IBC's.

The front of the shed is a lot harder to insulate but I managed to get away with 25mm polystyrene glued on the the doors and front panel. The polystyrene was also used for the roof and thin marine ply was used over this.

Temps in the IBC's remain quite stable staying well above 5 degrees in the winter.

Regards
Phil

27col

If the OP's IQ is as high as he brags that it is. Perhaps he could figure it out for himself.
Sorry, but I am not a fan of boasters who tell me how clever they are, and yet cannot come up with a simple solution to a common circumstance.
Even if the garage is insulated, the temperature inside will eventually drop right down if there is no heat being supplied during a prolonged cold spell.
All the insulation will do is to extend the time before this happens.

controversy

27col wrote: »

If the OP's IQ is as high as he brags that it is. Perhaps he could figure it out for himself.
Sorry, but I am not a fan of boasters who tell me how clever they are, and yet cannot come up with a simple solution to a common circumstance.
Even if the garage is insulated, the temperature inside will eventually drop right down if there is no heat being supplied during a prolonged cold spell.
All the insulation will do is to extend the time before this happens.

Well I'm a Psychopath. I am socially toxic. Can't really help it. Im naturally a idiot.

There will be heat of course but its just a matter of seeing which build is best.

controversy

SplanK wrote: »

You could always build a secondary wall within the garage (wood frame), then fill the gap between the concreate and the plasterboard?

I thought about that. It could be the cheapest solution. Drill some holes into the concrete foundation and then some into the roof timbers and bolt some wood frame onto them.

Only trouble is the roof timbers are flimsy.

controversy

phil24_7 wrote: »

Or you could insulate a shed.

I built a concrete base (150-20mm thick and with no reinforcement) and erected a large metal shed on this. I then completely insulated the inside of this with 100mm cellotex and marine ply lined it. I insulated the floor and the back end of the shed again and put two IBc's with the tops cut off in this and insulated the front. After this I ply lined the IBC's so that they are boxed in with 2 holes cut in the top, slightly smaller than the IBC's.

The front of the shed is a lot harder to insulate but I managed to get away with 25mm polystyrene glued on the the doors and front panel. The polystyrene was also used for the roof and thin marine ply was used over this.

Temps in the IBC's remain quite stable staying well above 5 degrees in the winter.

Regards
Phil

Ah pretty nice. What you growing in your tanks? Carp of some kind?

controversy

xyz123 wrote: »

Mostly right but OP to bear in mind when looking at similar situation for our garage recently (18 by 9), precast ones start from about 4k (including personnel door) with about another 1k on top for base. In London I was quoted at least 7k for block built and 9-10k for brick built. whilst no doubt whatsoever that the brick built will be versatile and better in general but it is not going to "not cost much...." Unless ofcourse OP can him/herself do much of work or get some friends to help if lucky...IMHO

I do have a secret in my sleeve.

My Brothers Son is a qualified Brick Layer. He has only had a couple years experience though. He is still an Apprentice.

I think going for a Block Build might be a good alternative.

There is a problem with money as I can only save up to a certain amount but I may be able to just buy the materials get it built then pay my Brothers Son in installments over time.

Or it may be worth looking at 0% finance deals.