Letter from GWR Prosecutions Unit

yorkie2

GWR prosecute on behalf of First Transpennine Express.

As there is no meaningful information about the dispute, I'm not going to comment further.

Bollotom wrote: »

Great Western don't run between Blackpool and Manchester. Might be Great North West Rail.

Who are they?

macman

How did they get to write to you if your daughter gave her name? If she is old enough to be prosecuted, then why have they not contacted her?
The admin fee of £25 is not unreasonable, and the penalty will normally be the full single walk up fare for the journey.

wealdroam

macman wrote: »

How did they get to write to you if your daughter gave her name? If she is old enough to be prosecuted, then why have they not contacted her?
The admin fee of £25 is not unreasonable, and the penalty will normally be the full single walk up fare for the journey.

As the daughter was travelling on a child ticket, see here, I imagine the letter was addressed to 'The parents or guardian of Miss Slugsie'.

The_ICT_Engineer

Does your daughter look over sixteen? If she does, the inspector may have believed that she was over sixteen and therefore not permitted to travel on the child ticket. And if she can not prove it at the time, the would inspector take it off her. My own daughter had the same problems with South West Trains, She had to carry ID to prove she was under-age.

Hasbeen

The_ICT_Engineer wrote: »

Does your daughter look over sixteen? If she does, the inspector may have believed that she was over sixteen and therefore not permitted to travel on the child ticket. And if she can not prove it at the time, the would inspector take it off her. My own daughter had the same problems with South West Trains, She had to carry ID to prove she was under-age.

Pretty sure railway companies regard over 16yrs as adults?
So should have bought adult ticket.

The_ICT_Engineer

Hasbeen wrote: »

Pretty sure railway companies regard over 16yrs as adults?
So should have bought adult ticket.

But the Op's daughter may have had a birthday since October. My own daughter had problems from fourteen onwards.

rdr

The_ICT_Engineer wrote: »

But the Op's daughter may have had a birthday since October. My own daughter had problems from fourteen onwards.

My daughter was offered gin and tonic on a plane -- at the age of 12:beer:

antrobus

macman wrote: »

How did they get to write to you if your daughter gave her name? If she is old enough to be prosecuted, then why have they not contacted her?
The admin fee of £25 is not unreasonable, and the penalty will normally be the full single walk up fare for the journey.

Because, whilst you can prosecute a 16 year-old for committing an offence under the railway byelaws, it's tricky to sue them for breach of contract in a civil court because they are a minor.

Bollotom

yorkie2 wrote: »

GWR prosecute on behalf of First Transpennine Express.

As there is no meaningful information about the dispute, I'm not going to comment further.

Who are they?

Have a read. I must admit I was a little surprised they existed.:cool:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/07/virgin-has-a-rival-gnwr-london-blackpool-west-coast-rail-service

chuckley

your daughter is lying.

furthermore why are you only finding about this now/being asked to pay up? this is wayyyy outside of the standard 'pay up with xxx days or it escalates'.

when she had to confirm her ID they would've explained she'll get a letter and to pay up/appeal.

in short, you have no evidence/recourse so just pay up and take it as a lesson.

be thankful you're not in London. I had to pay £125!