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  • londonTiger
    londonTiger Posts: 4,903 Forumite
    If the OP were to claim ESA then it would be income based (as would JSA) so in either case the WPA would exclude it.

    All of the benefits mentioned will be affected by the benefits cap so the simplest thing is to claim WPA which will need no assessment or jobcentre involvement.

    I would be happy for her to just claim WPA and CTC I think that would hit the benefit cap anyway. But from what I heard straight from a housing benefits officer ius that WPA does not give entitlement to housing benefit which is really what she needs as it would be a significant amount of money.

    Unless the officer I spoke to really doesnt know much about WPA as they haven't see this circumstance before to know about it fully.
  • Has anybody mentioned the one off £2000 payment? https://www.gov.uk/bereavement-payment/eligibility


    My BF is a widower, he gets a widows pension from DWP also small pension income from his late wife's private pension.


    Did your Brother have a private pension?
  • nannytone_2
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    Bereavement isn't an illness and it's an insult to try to medicalise it in this way.

    (And, before you put your foot in it even more, my husband died in October, so I'm speaking from experience.)

    why am i putting my foot in anything?
    bereavement isn't an illness.... but neither is blindness for which i receive ESA.

    grief can be very debilitating, so even if she doesn't have an illness, she would likely qualify as 'unfit' for work in the immediate future because of stress.

    you may have lost your husband ( sadly) but didn't have no income and 4 dependant children to cope with
  • nannytone_2
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    But you have to be ill to claim ESA, not just apply for it because you can't have another Benefit.

    Unless the OP is ill, with medical certification, then JSA is the way to go.

    again ... i am not ill
  • nannytone_2
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    She doesn't need to apply for either - she should be claiming the appropriate benefit which is WPA.

    which is dependant on her husbands NI contributions
  • londonTiger
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    nannytone wrote: »
    which is dependant on her husbands NI contributions

    correct me if im wrong but if partner dies from an industrial accident or disease then NI is irrelivant. My brother was only contributing towards a basic state pension, passed away in his mid 40s so would have several years of NI.
  • nannytone_2
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    no idea as that isn't what the husband in this post died from.
    but her only earn 6k in the past year, so his earnings in previous years would be relevant
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 5 January 2016 at 7:23PM
    nannytone wrote: »
    why am i putting my foot in anything?
    bereavement isn't an illness.... but neither is blindness for which i receive ESA.

    grief can be very debilitating, so even if she doesn't have an illness, she would likely qualify as 'unfit' for work in the immediate future because of stress.

    you may have lost your husband ( sadly) but didn't have no income and 4 dependant children to cope with

    It might be nice to show Missbiggles some sympathy :(

    I did think you had to be ill to receive ESA, which is , IIUC, a sickness benefit. I thought DLA/PIP was the one for disability.
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  • missbiggles1
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    nannytone wrote: »
    why am i putting my foot in anything?
    bereavement isn't an illness.... but neither is blindness for which i receive ESA.

    grief can be very debilitating, so even if she doesn't have an illness, she would likely qualify as 'unfit' for work in the immediate future because of stress.

    you may have lost your husband ( sadly) but didn't have no income and 4 dependant children to cope with

    I think most people would consider blindness to be a disability which bereavement isn't.

    Why keep encouraging the poor woman to claim an inappropriate benefit with all the stress of being assessed for it when there is an appropriate benefit (WPA) that she can claim with no hassle and carry on claiming for another 6 or 7 years (although I would hope she doesn't need to) with no hassle?

    Sorry, that just doesn't make any sense.
  • missbiggles1
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    It might be nice to show Missbiggles some sympathy :(

    I did think you had to be ill to receive ESA, which is , IIUC, a sickness benefit. I thought DLA/PIP was the one for disability.

    Thank you again.

    (Sick and disabled people can both claim both benefits by the way, some qualify for one, some for the other and some for both.):)
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