London Aquatic Centre PCN Gemini Parking Solutions

DB2000

Thanks Coupon Mad, some questions
a) should the 'Template appeal for BPA members' letter be sent now or later into the response period?
b) i note the template makes no reference to request of the PPC evidence (as the keeper was not the driver at the time, should this be requested?
c) the IPC templates contain alot more info, do i request the same information as part of the POPLA process?

thanks in advance, the brain has gone into research overdrive and reading the schedules of the POFA has disturbed my brain a little.

Gimli59

DB2000
I am currently fighting Gemini re a ticket at the Copper Box. I think you may also be covered by Olympic Park Byelaws Quoting, “Please note that parking at either site is only for visitors to the Copper Box Arena or London Aquatics Centre - if you are not visiting either of these venues, this will result in a parking fine of £35.”

Extra ammo re No Keeper Liability

DB2000

Hi there, updating this, i have attached 2 things:

NTK letter back to request a POPLA, i hoping slight additions to the letter don't annoy the newbies thread administrators ;-) .. tiny pic the most excruitiating website to use ever.. has finally not crashed and has allowed me to upload these... i have checked many time thse links, they work then they dont.. i hope they work for you guys...

hxxp://tinypic.com/m/j5xbfd/3[/url]

and

now Gemini's response to POPLA request:

hxxp://tinypic.com/m/j5xbb8/3

any thoughts are welcome! proceeding to build the popla case,

DB2000

and tiny url has not worked again... i tried... here is the copy n paste of their letter response....

We refer to your appeal regarding the above parking charge notice. We have investigated your appeal
and have considered the points that were raised within your letter.
Your vehicle was seen by our parking operative on 23/12/2015 at the above location for the
contravention of "Parking in No Parking Area”.

We have noted your comments regarding insufficient and unclear signage however; we can confirm
that there is a clear signage advising motorists that all vehicles must be parked within allocated
parking bays only. On the date of contravention, your vehicle was parked on public footpath which is
in breach of the terms and conditions therefore our Enforcement Officer issued a PCN and we are
satisfied that it was issued correctly. Unfortunately, we are unable to take your mitigating comments
into account.

You claim that we have not made it clear that there is opportunity to appeal however; on the back of
the PCN that was attached onto your vehicle is a clear explanation of the appeal procedure. The
same information is on the back of the reminder letter that was sent to you on 27/01/2016.
The above location is a private property and is managed by Gemini Parking Solutions London Ltd on
behalf of the land owner. When parking on private land, a motorist freely enters into an agreement to
abide by the conditions of parking in return for permission to park. It is the motorist’s responsibility to
ensure that he or she abides by any clearly displayed conditions of parking.
Gemini Parking Solutions fully complies with the guidelines set by that of the British Parking
Association who are the regulating body for the parking industry. You were parked outside of the set
terms and conditions of the site and as a result we have rejected your appeal as your representations
did not make sufficient grounds.

The payment for £100 is now due as you have exceeded the 14 day period. Failure to pay the amount
will result in further costs being incurred and may also result in Gemini Parking Solutions Ltd
Instructing a Debt Collection agency to collect any sum due.

Coupon-mad

http://tinypic.com/m/j5xbb8/3

Standard rejection letter, nothing special just computer says 'no' junk except that they should have given you a POPLA code.

So have a look at recent POPLA appeals on the first ten pages of this forum, you should find several similar ones. We KNOW there have been POPLA appeals about being parked without authority, not Gemini ones but other small firms, all similar.

You have ages, 28 days to work on it so let's see your draft and don't forget 'no keeper liability' which - astonishingly - gets missed off by so many Newbies who don't get that is the entire point of why they've appealed as Keeper.

DB2000

Hi C-M, they did give me a POPLA code in the body of the email, this letter was an attachment to an appeals response email (which they never even disclosed was part of the appeal process or that there was one, instead they just demanded payment).

Thanks!

fisherjim

If it was by their own definition "a public footpath" surely they have no claim to enforce any made up PPC rules to cover it.