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New VW Golf fuel economy
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Do you make this guff up yourself, or do you go around believing any old rubbish you find on t'interwebs?Marktheshark wrote: »When they test, the car is stripped if everything it does not need to run for the duration of the test including the alternator, it has mirrors removed, every seam is taped over, its a downhill track of 1.5% and they wait until the wind is behind the car, they tow it up to test speed for extra urban and it maintains 56 mph for the distance.0 -
Marktheshark wrote: »Is this another "I believed the dealers figures would be true" post.
They are not, plenty of data on the internet with real MPG figures and I think you will find, they will be accurate to what you are getting.
When they test, the car is stripped if everything it does not need to run for the duration of the test including the alternator, it has mirrors removed, every seam is taped over, its a downhill track of 1.5% and they wait until the wind is behind the car, they tow it up to test speed for extra urban and it maintains 56 mph for the distance.
In real life, you are lucky to get half.
Bigjulie exceeds them.There are loads of ex AddLee vehicles still being worked.
The older ones are becoming less common but you do still see the odd Sharan knocking about. You used to see loads of 06 and 56 plates about in East London but the oldest I have seen lately is a 57plate. The Galaxy from 08/58 is much more common, some look rough but other have been looked after.
Their main problem was the gearbox was not very strong and AddLee used to recondition them at around 80k wether it was going properly or not, I was told they actually had a bloke in house that did them at the time but that was a rumour and I can't substantiate it.
One interesting point is that they put Winter tyres in the VIP fleet (E Class Mercs, not sure about the S Class) but never used to put them on the Galaxys!
Hopefully you get a good return from your investment.
I reckon an easy 3 years.
AddLee did stretch out the service intervals after being bought out by Carlysle. The 5k service became an inspection and replace as needed with the oil changes stretched out to 10k. Still 2,500 short of what Ford say.
They used to use Castrol oil but don't know if that is still the case as they used Petronas on the E Class Mercs with all the parts coming from EuroCarParts.
I have always recommended ex AddLee Galaxys if bought with care.
The only disadvantage is that they don't have a consumer credit licence (caveat, info is over a year old) which means you have to arrange your own finance.
One small point that I thought I would add.
I drove for AddLee for 6/7 months after I retired, during the lead up, during and after the Olympics. (It was crap and I very quickly started doing Medical cover work at the same time.)
I found that fuel economy was good but on a few occasions I used Tesco diesel and found that the DPF would Regen an awful lot more with Tesco diesel. I never tried Asda or Morrisons and went back to Shell as there is one on the A13 that price matches local supermarkets. I never had any DOF problems though, a Regen was easy to spot aswell. On the one I used anyway.
I did loads of miles in mine, never had a single problem, only needed two front tyres and some pads.
They used Hankooks then, I believe they use Michelins now.
I used to get 45mpg out of mine, though I would often start my day with a good book on the Stansted Airport rank so that will likely have pushed up my average a bit.
I did experiment a few times to see what mpg I could get on a slow cruise round the M25 a few times and I could get the readout to show around the 60mpg mark at a steady 60/65mph.
Oh but you did say in real life. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:0 -
Modern diesels often struggle to get the claimed MPG figures.
Probably due to the official figures being lab based. And thus should only be used as a benchmark to compare vehicles, they are not representative of what you might actually get.
And I doubt the official figures include the DPF being Regened.
I used to get an easy 50mpg out of my mk3 130tdci Mondeo, but only got 45mpg out of my V50 with the later 2.0 tdci engine (136bhp)
The worst performing car I ever owned as far as expected economy versus actual economy was my 110 Tdi Toledo (bought new in '99) no matter how I drive it I couldn't get better than 50mpg, usually it gave 45mpg which was annoying as I bought it because of the promised 60mpg+ in reality it gave almost identical economy to my 405 GLX TD which had the 1905cc XUD engine (the more powerful inter cooled version, 95M)
Though I would expect the MPG to improve a little bit as the mileage grows.0 -
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More powerful does not always mean worse mpg. My 2L car was better
on a long motorway journey than my sisters smaller lighter 1.6. Same journey as she was following me.
In the city it would have been the opposite. Steady 60/70 mph in my car = approx 60mpg. Not bad for a 1.5ton estate.Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...0 -
Not to mention the link to the .gov.uk page describing exactly how it's carried out...
Quote and link for the hard of Googling
How is the fuel consumption test conducted?
The test is outlined in Directive 93/116/EC as amended by Regulation (EC) 692/2008, and provides results that are more than representative of actual average on-road fuel consumption than previous tests. There are two parts: an urban and an extra-urban cycle. The cars tested have to be run-in and must have been driven for at least 1,800 miles (3,000 kilometres) before testing.
Urban Cycle
The urban test cycle is carried out in a laboratory at an ambient temperature of 20oC to 30oC on a rolling road from a cold start, i.e. the engine has not run for several hours. The cycle consists of a series of accelerations, steady speeds, decelerating and idling. Maximum speed is 31mph (50km/h), average speed 12mph (19km/h) and the distance covered is 2.5 miles (4km).
Extra-Urban Cycle
This cycle is conducted immediately following the urban cycle and consists of roughly half steady-speed driving and the remainder accelerations, decelerations, and some idling. Maximum speed is 75mph (120km/h), average speed is 39mph (63 km/h) and the distance covered is 4.3miles (7km).
Combined Fuel Consumption Figure
The combined figure presented is for the urban and extra-urban cycle together. It is therefore an average of the two parts of the test, weighted by the distances covered in each part.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/faqs-fuel-consumptio.asp0 -
By all means - but don't forget the graph...
Part One is urban cycle, from a cold start.
Part Two is extra-urban, taken straight after part one.
Parts One and Two together are the combined figure.
Oh, and if you follow the links to the actual EU regulations, the cars are taken randomly straight from production, and NOTHING can be done to them - except there's a maximum run-in period allowed of 3,000km for petrol and 15,000km for diesel. Only routine scheduled maintenance - to the book - is allowed in that distance.0 -
VW have already admitted to cheating these tests by submitting cars with engine oil thinned with diesel and other modifications.Oh, and if you follow the links to the actual EU regulations, the cars are taken randomly straight from production, and NOTHING can be done to them - except there's a maximum run-in period allowed of 3,000km for petrol and 15,000km for diesel. Only routine scheduled maintenance - to the book - is allowed in that distance.
It is widely believed all manufacturers do this to some extent - especially now there has been silence from other manufacturers despite VW's obvious troubles... There but for the grace of God, etc...0
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