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2015 - No fee bank accounts. Where are they?
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Neither myself nor anyone else has said, as far as I am aware, that it doesn't cost anything to run MSE, Google, Facebook, etc. . They finance the "free" services by income they make in some other way. MSE, for instance, make the vast amount of their money from referrals, as they declare in their "How this site is funded" article, and it is ver clever to allow free access to the site and the site's forum, as this increases the opportunity for MSE to make money.
It is you who - quite absurdly - keeps arguing that providing current accounts cost nothing / next to nothing. Although it seems you might now be making some sort of a u-turn and arguing banks should be funding no-charge current accounts from other income. This is very different from claiming there's no cost to providing current accounts.
I didn't say it doesn't cost anything to run current accounts, what I said is that, once the systems are in place, adding additional users to the system doesn't add much to the cost, and that those users can potentially become users of the more profitable services of the bank.
Banks not only make enough money from their more profitable activities to fund current accounts, they also benefit from having your money, pooled together with everyone else's, however, it's not my mission in life to educate you guys about the inner workings of the financial sector. I have posted up enough examples to back up my arguments. If you still choose to believe that banks should charge for the privilege of having your money to play with, well, it's your opinion and we're all entitled to ours.
Have a Merry Christmas:xmastree:Big corporations take advantage of the unwary, it's time we learned how to deal with them:dance::dance::dance:Any comments are based on personal experience and interest in consumer matters, they do not constitute advice.0 -
absolutereturn wrote: »I didn't say it doesn't cost anything to run current accounts, what I said is that, once the systems are in place, adding additional users to the system doesn't add much to the cost, and that those users can potentially become users of the more profitable services of the bank.absolutereturn wrote: »it's not my mission in life to educate you guys about the inner workings of the financial sector.absolutereturn wrote: »If you still choose to believe that banks should charge for the privilege of having your money to play with, well, it's your opinion and we're all entitled to ours.
NB. I am the holder of some 20-odd current accounts, all of which either come with no charge, or with sufficient benefits to warrant any charge.0 -
The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....0
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List of accounts from the BBC article linked to above:0
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This info has been a great help.0
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Issuing a typical ATM / debit card costs around £3. Basic account customers are more likely to lose or damage their card (source: several thousand days working in front line banking).
When that card is used to withdraw cash from a supermarket's competitor ATM it costs the bank issuing the card around 30p (my figure here is a little dated). Half the amount if a high street competitor ATM is used.
The average balance of a typical low end basic account is c£250, compared to c£2,000 in a "proper" current account. This, at an interest margin of 2% will generate £5 a year in income for the bank.
Mandatory mailings such as statements, FSCS coverage, amendments to T&Cs, failed payments etc cost around £1 a pop.
Other free services such as interactions with staff, branch, call centre and fraud overheads etc - no idea.
But there is no way that banks will do anything but lose money on basic accounts. The customers who use them don't save and can't borrow.
I think the supermarket analogy above is fair. Equally, there's merit to the view "we bailed them out, they owe us". Although looking at the list there are many banks and building societies that "we" the taxpayer didn't bail out.
And some that were bailed out but have returned that money and more over the past eight years.0
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