I hate trees

Ralph-y

"All trees die if you kill them"

I would like to say I tried ..... but I can't :eek:

its a £4,000 fine to touch then .... min ... let alone kill them

Ferns hostas. bluebells and snowdrops, cyclamen. all been tried some do OK .......

its really the veg side of things we would like to improve

thanks again

and merry xmas

Ralph:cool:

Pennywise

I feel your pain, we have five huge scots pines and a couple of copper beeches that are under a TPO just a couple of feet from our garden fence which not only completely obliterate any light from our garden and house, but also leave several sack fulls of leaves, cones and broken branches, not to mention blocking our guttering that needs us to engage workmen to clean out the guttering three times a year. Complete pain in the butt. Can't wait for them to be toppled in a storm, which seems to be the only way to get shut of them. Given up trying to grow anything in the garden.

RAS

Ralph-y wrote: »

its really the veg side of things we would like to improve

Do you have a front garden? Have you considered that as an option?

Re the back garden, the veggies with the lowest light requirements are things like lettuce.

Thinking laterally, I assume in winter you get more light once the leaves drop?

How about trying to grow winter salads? Mache, land cress, bitter cress, perhaps lettuce, salad burnet. maybe use that little greenhouse for mangetout peas (they grow OK even in freezing weather but need protection from wind).

Also try overwintering short varieties of peas and broad beans amd perhaps Swiss chard, which might make it far enough to crop after the tree leaves come out?

Or tuck some mushroom logs in the shade?

Davesnave

All places change. The way trees change is predictable, but there's plethora of reasons why the surroundings of a house may change over 30 years.

Once unbearable change happens, whether it's in us or our surroundings, if there's no acceptable fix, the answer is to move on.

Ralph-y

"Can't wait for them to be toppled in a storm"

we sit watching every storm :rotfl:

RAS

no front garden .... its an old house straight onto the pavement

excellent I will pass on the the green fingered one


"the answer is to move on"

argh.........

no .....

its taken 30+ years to undecorate it the way she wants it :eek:

merry xmas

Ralph:cool:

theoretica

Not vegetables, but my currants and gooseberries do well in partial shade.

Davesnave

I agree that fruit like gooseberies and redcurrants might be easier than veg, but I'd give RAS's suggestions a try. I had mangetout peas this year by the time the trees were leafing-up, albeit in a polytunnel, but I didn't start them as early as I might have. Sorrel (good in sandwiches) grows in most places too, as does chard.

As regards moving, we did it when we outgrew our previous garden. Once you've done it all, what else can you do?

It was the same with our first house: raised beds, a winding path through a rock garden a greenhouse, a pond, a patio,surrounding beds and some climbers, all in the space of 30'.Nowhere left to go. Then someone planted leylandii 3' south of us....

Ralph-y

thanks for all that .........

the wife has read through and started to do some more research .....

Ralph:cool: