Tesco Security Tag Not Disabled

hollydays

PCMcGarry wrote: »

It's not uncommon to work in pairs and more so in the 80s. Did you work alone when you were in the police then?

Could I ask why you feel the need to use the word "PC" in your username?

FOREVER21

hollydays wrote: »

:wall::wall::wall::wall:

Perhaps if you stopped banging your head on the wall your posts would make more sense.

My post merely corrected an earlier comment suggesting that the security guard could detain the person as it was an indictable offence, which following 2014 it is not.

PCMcGarry

FOREVER21 wrote: »

Yes but theft of a £4 item is not an indictable offence, so would not have been appropriate in this instance.

In 2014 a new law was introduced Low Level Theft and it applies to items under£200, these offences can now only be dealt with at magistrates courts.

This certainly gives lie to a previous post suggesting theft from shops is now taken more seriously.

You're right and in that case the security guard just needs reasonable grounds to believe loss of or damage to property will occur or the suspect will make off before a constable can assume responsibility for them.

BykerSands

FOREVER21 wrote: »

Perhaps if you stopped banging your head on the wall your posts would make more sense.

My post merely corrected an earlier comment suggesting that the theft was an indictable offence, which following 2014 it is to.

I answered in response to one of naedangers posts. You assumed it was a 4 quid iron, anyway it matters not as Section 24A covers it.

unholyangel

FOREVER21 wrote: »

Yes but theft of a £4 item is not an indictable offence, so would not have been appropriate in this instance.

In 2014 a new law was introduced Low Level Theft and it applies to items under£200, these offences can now only be dealt with at magistrates courts.

This certainly gives lie to a previous post suggesting theft from shops is now taken more seriously.

8. The legislation also makes provision to ensure that certain powers under the Police and
Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE), which only apply to indictable offences, will
continue to be available in cases of summary-only shop theft. These include the powers
of a constable to enter and search premises for the purposes of evidence gathering or to
arrest a suspected individual, powers of a justice of the peace to issue warrants to enter
and search premises, and powers for shop security staff to make a “citizen’s arrest”. The
provision also makes analogous changes to Service law to ensure that powers of
investigation are similarly preserved.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/317719/low_value_shop_theft_guidance.pdf

The-Truth

Paul_Varjak wrote: »

I visited a Tesco Extra store and purchased a Tesco-branded electric iron for £4. As I was leaving the store, the security alarm sounded and a security guard hurriedly approached me and asked to see my receipt, which I showed him. He said that the security tag was inside the box so I asked him how they disable those tags. I was astounded at his response, which was that they are provided with no means to disable them. If that is the case, I would suggest that is not reasonable grounds to suspect I have stolen anything.

When I got home, I noticed that the box had a label (printed as part of the packaging) saying it contained a security tag. I assume, therefore, that all Tesco branded irons have security tags inside the box and that anyone leaving the store having purchased such an item, would be stopped as the store cannot disable the security tag.

I have no objection to a store using security tags but they should, at least, have a means to disable the tag to prevent such false suspicions arising.

Is this all you've got to worry about this Christmas?

Lucky aren't you!

Zandoni

The-Truth wrote: »

Is this all you've got to worry about this Christmas?

Lucky aren't you!

Still full of charm MSK

Paul_Varjak

Having discussed the matter with someone at the Tesco store, I am now aware that Tesco put security tags inside the boxes of Tesco-branded products when the product is packaged at the factory. These security tags are placed immediately behind the barcode that is printed on the outside of the box and should be disabled at the checkout as the barcode is scanned.

BUT, THE SCANNER THAT IS BUILT INTO THE CHECKOUT DESK WILL NOT DISABLE THE SECURITY TAG. SO, IF YOU BUY A TESCO-BRANDED PRODUCT FROM A STORE, ALWAYS ENSURE THAT THE CHECKOUT OPERATOR USES THE HAND SCANNER TO DISABLE THE SECURITY TAG BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE STORE.

cono1717

Having worked in a store (not tesco) that uses these hand scanners sometimes they don't always work.

Where I worked when you disabled a tag you got a double beep noise, a few times it would just make one continuous tone meaning the tag wouldn't deactivate.

Similarly you could run the wand over the box like you were having a lightsaber fight with it, hear no noise, assume tag has been disabled only for the alarm to go off as the customer walked out.

agrinnall

elsien wrote: »

I'm more surprised that they've bothered to tag a £4 iron.

£4 is a fortune compared to the £1 bag of disposable razors that were tagged in one supermarket I shopped at .