: Proprietary Estoppel, Registry office alert

securityguy

"Both my mother and her partner made the promise to me several times."

Even had they done so in writing, if that writing wasn't in the form of a validly executed will, it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

coldrunning2002

THIS IS THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT of me your name date of birth your birthday of your address

WHEREBY:-
I HEREBY REVOKE all former Wills and Testamentary Dispositions whatsoever heretofore made by me
I Appoint the Agent, my name and my office address, to be Executor and Trustee of this my will
The Executor of my will can charge a reasonable amount of professional fees for the work they do
For my funeral, please see the second sheet for instructions, write them out
All of my debts are to be paid and settled in FULL, notice of my death is be well published
I define of terms: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING means no Chattels, no Real Estate, no Money, no Business Shares
I GIVE my HUSBAND or WIFE, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their name
I GIVE my SONS and DAUGHTERS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my sisters and brothers, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my parents, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE all my uncles and aunties, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my grandparents, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my cousins, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my Nieces and Nephews, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE anybody else who is a blood relative to me, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
THEREFORE, NO family members will be a beneficiary, they all GET NOTHING
All of my chattels are to go down to the rubbish dump after being smashed up with sledgehammers
NOBODY else is to take anything at all
All property I own is to be demolished to rubble as soon as a grant of probate is granted by my chosen executor listed above
My business is to be wound up and all employees are to be DISMISSED from their positions within the company, all company assets are to be smashed up with sledgehammers by my executor
HALF of the residue amount of my money of my real and personal estate is to be spent on my FUNERAL
The rest of my residue amount of my money of my real and personal estate is to be given to my executor
There will be NO money left over.

IN WITNESS where of I have hereunto set, my hand is _______ day of _________
Today’s year

Signed by your name in the presence of two witnesses ______________________


Witness 1, name, address, birthday, signature

Witness 2, name, address, birthday, signature

paddy's_mum

Good Lord!

Has it been rewarding to live with this level of hatred and bitterness all these years?

I pity you, stuck in this time warp of thwarted entitlement.

Keep_pedalling

That is just about the strangest post I have ever seen on here, but just to play along there are a few flaws in that will. First off it ignores IHT, which is going to be based on pre-destruction value. Planning laws are unlikely to allow house demolition, but most importantly someone is going to successfully challenge it on the basis that the testator was not of sound mind when they wrote it so everything will revert to intestacy laws.

Easier just to leave everything to the cats home.

antrobus

coldrunning2002 wrote: »

Both my mother and her partner made the promise to me several times....

That's not what you said in your OP.

Your OP contains a long list of alleged remarks made by the partner following your mother's death, telling you that you were going to get exactly doodly squat when he died. So you have known for 15 years, ever since your mother's death, that her failure to arrange her affairs (terminate the joint tenancy, execute a will with a life interest etc) meant that the promise you were made was not going to be fulfilled. So that's when your cause of action arose.

coldrunning2002 wrote: »

...But my mothers partner was very devious, when they bought the house, he did all the correspondence with the property conveyancer, and I am sure he was thinking, "If my partner dies first, I will get everything because we own the property as joint tenants, however if I have a health scare or get ill, I will immediately do a deed of severance to tenants in common, with the land registry and leave my half to my children, brother and first wife, so my partner will get nothing from me." ....

As Judge Judy would put it, 'Don't tell me what he was thinking, tell me what happened". Your speculations about the partner's motivations do not amount to a hill of beans.

antrobus

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

That is just about the strangest post I have ever seen on here, but just to play along there are a few flaws in that will. First off it ignores IHT, which is going to be based on pre-destruction value. Planning laws are unlikely to allow house demolition, but most importantly someone is going to successfully challenge it on the basis that the testator was not of sound mind when they wrote it so everything will revert to intestacy laws.....

It's relevance to the OP's predicament is also questionable; there was no will, and no property has been destroyed.

I suppose it would be an interesting question as to whether or not an indivdual has the 'right to destroy' their property. I suspect not. I don't know the answer, but I imagine any such clauses in a will would be deemed invalid as a matter of public policy. Or some such legal jiggery-pokery.

Keep_pedalling wrote: »

...Easier just to leave everything to the cats home.

Which is what people do, of course.

Pollycat

coldrunning2002 wrote: »

THIS IS THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT of me your name date of birth your birthday of your address

WHEREBY:-
I HEREBY REVOKE all former Wills and Testamentary Dispositions whatsoever heretofore made by me
I Appoint the Agent, my name and my office address, to be Executor and Trustee of this my will
The Executor of my will can charge a reasonable amount of professional fees for the work they do
For my funeral, please see the second sheet for instructions, write them out
All of my debts are to be paid and settled in FULL, notice of my death is be well published
I define of terms: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING means no Chattels, no Real Estate, no Money, no Business Shares
I GIVE my HUSBAND or WIFE, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their name
I GIVE my SONS and DAUGHTERS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my sisters and brothers, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my parents, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE all my uncles and aunties, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my grandparents, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my cousins, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE my Nieces and Nephews, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING: list their names
I GIVE anybody else who is a blood relative to me, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
THEREFORE, NO family members will be a beneficiary, they all GET NOTHING
All of my chattels are to go down to the rubbish dump after being smashed up with sledgehammers
NOBODY else is to take anything at all
All property I own is to be demolished to rubble as soon as a grant of probate is granted by my chosen executor listed above
My business is to be wound up and all employees are to be DISMISSED from their positions within the company, all company assets are to besmashed up with sledgehammers by my executor
HALF of the residue amount of my money of my real and personal estate is to be spent on my FUNERAL
The rest of my residue amount of my money of my real and personal estate is to be given to my executor
There will be NO money left over.

IN WITNESS where of I have hereunto set, my hand is _______ day of _________
Today’s year

Signed by your name in the presence of two witnesses ______________________


Witness 1, name, address, birthday, signature

Witness 2, name, address, birthday, signature

Has it occured to anyone that it's coming up to the school holidays?

This thread has the most bizarre poll I've ever seen.

Poll Options Follow Satan or Jesus
Fight for country and castle on Chrismas Day
become a street pastor, put it at the foot of the cross.

Unsurprisingly, nobody has voted thus far.

coldrunning2002

A mate has agreed to video the above drama on the day, it will end up on websites liveleak or youtube, stay tuned! I will post the link, it will sure be better than a run of the mill soap opera.


Meanwhile, if you get disinherited, listen to the music Surfacing by Slipknot.

Pollycat

This thread would be better suited to The Arms board, not on a serious one like this.

paddy's_mum

coldrunning2002 wrote: »

Meanwhile, if you get disinherited

You have not been disinherited. All you had were some words and your own expectations. No will has been destroyed, no priceless antiques or bars of gold have been stolen from your house, nobody has picked up her half of a mansion and walked away with it.

Your mother neglected to deal effectively with matters both practical and legal, as has been pointed out before on this thread.

To compound the matter, as you point out yourself in the opening post, you CHOSE not to use "expensive solicitors".

Perhaps, looking back, an efficient and experienced solicitor would have been remarkably cost effective and well worth his fees.