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  • aau1
    aau1 Posts: 19,401 Forumite
    Okay brilliant thank you :)

    Sorry to ask but who would I email as never done this before? :o

    I think it's just ipint@checkoutsmart.com
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is [strike]the word[/strike] a moorhen
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2016 at 9:19PM
    zippydooda wrote: »
    nerfys post quoting me is still there, any asterisks youve seen other than that post were altered by the quoter.

    I'm sorry I've misunderstood:o. I saw only henlans' post, with the asterisks in and thought that you'd written that, especially given that they'd said there was no need for abuse. It now turns out that you'd merely called people "furkers", which isn't swearing, and not what I thought you had. I didn't think there was anything wrong with "furkers" - however, it may have been directed at someone, which I missed, and, in that context, maybe there was something wrong with it. We seem to have been at cross purposes ever since, since I thought you originally meant - we know what F and the asterisks in that place implies. I thought you meant "the word that is very commonly considered to be swearing" (...and I have no objective view:o:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:- I jest a little).

    Maybe "furkers" is also considered to be swearing:think:. I have no idea. In a context in which it has been deleted in the OP though and replaced by something else, it has been made to be swearing (I suppose) as it is clearly "socially taboo" if you'd had to delete it and change it to something else as you have imposed a restriction (therefore a social taboo) on yourself. Or others have objected and you have wisely decided to rein it in.

    Just ignore all my irrelevancies in the meantime between the OP and now, as they have been based on my own misunderstanding of which I've only now become aware and therefore only now no longer have.

    Again! Flippin' asterisks causing all the misunderstanding:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:. Perhaps someone ought to censor "flippin'":D:rotfl: (make it look like I've said something way worse...). (Although, in my 'objective' view, nothing is better, worse or anything else.)
  • Ladyshopper
    Ladyshopper Posts: 2,454 Forumite
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    DeeDee74 wrote: »
    It's most sad people think it's the norm ,savvy so maybe you're not alone.
    Rotfl savvy I haven't heard that for ages did make me laugh
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Really? I'm actually intelligent, rather than "sad" and calling me "sad" could offend me. However, fortunately, I'm not letting it get to me. It is your opinion and I'm taking it that way - you're perfectly entitled to your view (and I think your view is one that is widely shared). I don't know if it's "sad" people - and I'm not quite sure what that means - for whom it is the norm. Maybe it is a generational thing (and gender thing - don't bring gender into it Savvy for goodness me:eek::rotfl:) or maybe it is not.

    I don't think I'm sad. I've just gone at it completely (and possibly inappropriately) objectivity and without any preconceptions - or erased any preconceptions that were given to me as a child and looked at it from complete afresh and entirely detached - and reached my own views on the matter. Rather than the views that my parents or teachers tried to give me - and had me believing for several decades, automatically and without question - and the views that almost everyone has been given through societal childhood indoctrination. I am being a provocative read. However, I suspect I am - or it seems to me that I am or maybe I am - out of step with what is generally accepted on this at the moment.

    I think we set our own individual standards, as long as we're all behaving within the law and any terms and conditions that websites etc. impose on us, arguably for good reason. If I don't have a problem with something personally then I don't, and if someone gives me a problem, then I have a problem with it. For me it's as simple as that.

    I think the whole point is that we get along in society harmoniously and without causing undue upset (or other 'bad' emotional reaction) to people. It's about that - and as long as no-one's unduly upset (an example of due upset might be a doctor informing someone they have a terminal illness) then that is fine. Well, it's not fine that people have terminal illnesses, but you know what I mean.

    Yet how do I do that? Someone, somewhere, may be annoyed by my repeated posting and if I've annoyed them, then that's me being unacceptable since it's caused someone some bad emotion. I hope not. However, even despite my hope and even despite my lack of intention, that does not account for the effect on others or how they feel.

    Savvy I'm pretty certain you are not reading it the way that deedee intended it to be read.

    Try inserting the word that, so it would read:
    It's most sad THAT people think it's the norm..........

    Thats certainly how I interpreted it anyway.
  • Nannylala
    Nannylala Posts: 6,791 Forumite
    Night night early one for me as tired getting all the decs down and house back to normal:T
    Ls hope all goes well tomorrow and your transport arrives on time.
  • Ladyshopper
    Ladyshopper Posts: 2,454 Forumite
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    Nannylala wrote: »
    Night night early one for me as tired getting all the decs down and house back to normal:T
    Ls hope all goes well tomorrow and your transport arrives on time.

    Thanks Nanny. Transport stresses me out so not looking forward to it. Am going to try getting back to using the train for my appointment on the 11th, but I wouldn't manage that with my overnight luggage which I need for my admission tomorrow. Plus who knows what the leakage situation will be when my catheters are (hopefully) removed. My friend who had the procedure a couple of weeks before me, but had her catheters removed at the standard time so months ago leaked on the way home, and I would be so embarassed if that happened to me on the train.
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    Savvy I'm pretty certain you are not reading it the way that deedee intended it to be read.

    Try inserting the word that, so it would read:
    It's most sad THAT people think it's the norm..........

    Thats certainly how I interpreted it anyway.

    Sorry, I've misread and misunderstood again!

    :rotfl::rotfl:Yes, it's actually "It's most sad people think that...", whereas I read [red] it as "It's most sad people who think that...".

    Well, yeah, deedee obviously finds it sad that people seem to think that way. Perhaps because of some perceived moral decline or whatever is felt to be the case. However, from my POV, I see nothing morally declining or inclining or anything at all - but completely neutral (in my objective bystander way - though of course I'm not objective at all, since me taking a different view (from deedee) is itself taking a view and, therefore, not objective or impartial - but then I did say I'd reached my own view on it). I don't think it's sad. I don't have any view on that matter. Some people may think it is sad that I don't have any view on the matter of whether it is sad or not, but again that's a personal opinion.
  • Ladyshopper
    Ladyshopper Posts: 2,454 Forumite
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    Right, am off to get ready for tomorrow and finish packing my case, digging out my hospital letters etc. Early start, but provided it isn't too traumatic I might get on here tomorrow afternoon/evening. Fingers crossed I can give a positive update for once! :)
  • DeeDee74
    DeeDee74 Posts: 2,941 Forumite
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    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Really? I'm actually intelligent, rather than "sad" and calling me "sad" could offend me. However, fortunately, I'm not letting it get to me. It is your opinion and I'm taking it that way - you're perfectly entitled to your view (and I think your view is one that is widely shared). I don't know if it's "sad" people - and I'm not quite sure what that means - for whom it is the norm. Maybe it is a generational thing (and gender thing - don't bring gender into it Savvy for goodness me:eek::rotfl:) or maybe it is not.

    I don't think I'm sad. I've just gone at it completely (and possibly inappropriately) objectivity and without any preconceptions - or erased any preconceptions that were given to me as a child and looked at it from complete afresh and entirely detached - and reached my own views on the matter. Rather than the views that my parents or teachers tried to give me - and had me believing for several decades, automatically and without question - and the views that almost everyone has been given through societal childhood indoctrination. I am being a provocative read. However, I suspect I am - or it seems to me that I am or maybe I am - out of step with what is generally accepted on this at the moment.

    I think we set our own individual standards, as long as we're all behaving within the law and any terms and conditions that websites etc. impose on us, arguably for good reason. If I don't have a problem with something personally then I don't, and if someone gives me a problem, then I have a problem with it. For me it's as simple as that.

    I think the whole point is that we get along in society harmoniously and without causing undue upset (or other 'bad' emotional reaction) to people. It's about that - and as long as no-one's unduly upset (an example of due upset might be a doctor informing someone they have a terminal illness) then that is fine. Well, it's not fine that people have terminal illnesses, but you know what I mean.

    Yet how do I do that? Someone, somewhere, may be annoyed by my repeated posting and if I've annoyed them, then that's me being unacceptable since it's caused someone some bad emotion. I hope not. However, even despite my hope and even despite my lack of intention, that does not account for the effect on others or how they feel.

    No no no savvy I don't think you 're sad not at all :eek:
    I mean it's sad that people just except that it's normal to put up with abuse or insults like its nothing.
    I'd never call you sad ,
    Ignore reality.There's nothing you can do about it.
    I have done reading too!
    personally test's all her own finds
  • bubbs
    bubbs Posts: 68,000 Forumite
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    Right, am off to get ready for tomorrow and finish packing my case, digging out my hospital letters etc. Early start, but provided it isn't too traumatic I might get on here tomorrow afternoon/evening. Fingers crossed I can give a positive update for once! :)

    Good luck and fingers crossed for you xx
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  • ilovetoshop
    ilovetoshop Posts: 3,202 Forumite
    Right, am off to get ready for tomorrow and finish packing my case, digging out my hospital letters etc. Early start, but provided it isn't too traumatic I might get on here tomorrow afternoon/evening. Fingers crossed I can give a positive update for once! :)

    Hope it all goes well for you x
    One cannot change the past, but one can ruin the present by worrying over the future.
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