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tweets

Gong to be fun tomorrow thanks to mum and DS.

I just rang her to see what time she wanted DS to go for her tomorrow and help her into taxi with pressies.

She said she thought me and Poppy where going over there opening pressies .

So I said well that's going to be a rush going over there for 10ish opening pressies and coming back here straight after to cook Christmas Dinner for 1-1.30pm .

Solved that Problem Poppy opening hers Saturday Boxing Day

Mum ordering taxi for 12 and coming here . So that's going to be fun lol wont give me much time to be chatty and cook , open pressies etc .

DS girlfriend picking him up about 2-30pm and mum said she will see how she feels about if she going back home in her car and folk wonder why I don't like Christmas

Anon

silvercar wrote: »

For Asda / Sainsbury shoppers:

Tesco cheaper: 1x SUN-PAT N/A/S PEANUT BUTTER 340G
£1.29 £1.78 £1.80

For tesco brand match vs Asda:

1x NESLTE CURIOUSLY CINN CEREAL 565G
£3.49 £1.99

A shame T cannot spell Nestle (or they have chosen an abbreviation that is as long as the original) .

Anon

emerald21

Good Afternoon everyone . Finally got back in after the gym and supermarkets. Asda Tesco then Morrissons. Morrissons is the other side of town from every thing else but I wanted the salad stuff for my dinner :snow_laug:snow_grin

Enterprise_1701C

tweets wrote: »

Gong to be fun tomorrow thanks to mum and DS.

I just rang her to see what time she wanted DS to go for her tomorrow and help her into taxi with pressies.

She said she thought me and Poppy where going over there opening pressies .

So I said well that's going to be a rush going over there for 10ish opening pressies and coming back here straight after to cook Christmas Dinner for 1-1.30pm .

Solved that Problem Poppy opening hers Saturday Boxing Day

Mum ordering taxi for 12 and coming here . So that's going to be fun lol wont give me much time to be chatty and cook , open pressies etc .

DS girlfriend picking him up about 2-30pm and mum said she will see how she feels about if she going back home in her car and folk wonder why I don't like Christmas

Tweets, just remember, at least you still have your mum to spend Christmas with. Believe me, one day you will look back on this with a smile.:)

Snap-ant

Busy busy busy.

Went to Ts very early & got my essentials & the £2 Thorntons Mint Collection - Thanks Bubbs

Gave out lots of dairy MOCs to friends I saw shopping

Home in pouring rain, then text from Argos to collect the Guinness Pie dish, so back into town, home again.

Did have a go at B00ts glitch but emptied my basket as I don't need it

And my Kipling order has been delivered from Vente Privee :T

Savvybuyer

miss_corerupted wrote: »

I have probably done it on several occasions. [1] I swear in everyday conversation. I was trying to get all the paperwork out of my bag and wallet and with frustration I would say the F word and B word not with anger or at the cashier

I'm just still surprised that it didn't get a reaction, although I suppose it depends on how well you know the cashier, what their age was, whether any other customers were around etc. I still couldn't even bring myself physically to say any of those words anywhere at all, when anyone else is present except only my brother (e.g. at home) and, possibly, my father.

[1] So do I, I also love it really and think it's great!:rotfl: I make a point of saying it as much as possible myself, when I am completely alone at home.

Obviously, I love it and I don't: don't love it at all when it makes me feel uncomfortable. Which is actually very rare in RL - in fact, whilst twenty years ago I would feel a little uncomfortable if I heard someone on the street say it, now I walk past them no problem and actually quite like it - it's rather milder these days. (I've even had people say it in an (attempted) abusive context at me (they were right in front of my face) - I think they were drunk - and whilst it made me very wary as to what they might do, I simply walked around the corner... and kept walking and, fortunately, they did not follow me - and then got home... and laughed at what they had said:rotfl:. Then I went to the gym and returned later in total discomfort. I know, totally bizarre as to what should (and what should not) bother me.)

I been in a pub once and heard someone at the bar talking with swearwords and not causing any problem. I think he was telling a joke to the barman, who laughed. I still just couldn't, myself. I still don't make friends properly. Perhaps I just can't do banter properly and therefore dare not risk it in case it's misperceived or comes out sounding wrong. But then I do have Asperger's that gives me these 'problems' - I don't always give the right tone of voice the way I intend - and best not to risk swearing with that sort of thing at all, even if I could physically bring myself to say it which I just can't. I'm afraid, to some extent, I took my teachers and parents literally when they said you "never" say it.

As I say, I think the inability to swear is partly my Asperger's. Whilst, with normal people, swearwords are processed in a different part of the brain and aren't really thought about like an academic consideration, with me I think everything goes through the same part of my brain and everything is thought about and considered precisely before I say it, unless I'm monologuing on favourite topic like usual and then everything just comes out and goes on and on and on and without me thinking. However, if one of my topics was swearing, then I wouldn't bring myself to say out loud any of the words, or discuss that face-to-face in RL, as I just physically can't do it.

I have a problem there, although it's not one that is confined to me as a person with Asperger's, and some people that don't have Asperger's find it physically impossible to bring themselves to say. I once hit my leg very hard on the sink, whilst I was in the works kitchen with everyone else - those that all swear all the time around me - and pure air came out of my mouth. Obviously, I thought, very strongly, the word that, had I been completely alone, I would absolutely have let out, but just no element of any word, not even a "fff" sound ever came out of my mouth. I hope that's settled for people exactly what I was thinking:rotfl: - and put the issue to bed for them! They wouldn't even have known - it was literally a sharp breathing out of pure air. I bet you can't understand how I managed it:rotfl:. But I just couldn't produce any sound other than that.

In a way, it's no good for me as swearing is scientifically such an effective way of relieving stress. But, as someone who has been caused stress, by others' use or implication of language around me, it would actually really assist me more if I could relieve my stress under a lot more circumstances than I can.

I have a swearing story too. I was in a small supermarket the other week. And one young lad, just talking to his friend, was even very loud, just used a swearword. To which, the nearly middle-aged male cashier at one of the tills replied, again normally and not aggressively, "Just get out of the shop now!". To which the young lad replied by calling him something the forum won't allow, consisting of either two swearwords or one swearword depending on what your view as what constitutes "swearing" is. In that context, the second word, which is generally considered to be "mild", and which the BBC by the way consider it acceptable to broadcast unbleeped in a programme at 8.45pm that bleeps a lot of other language, but then the guy there was describing himself - not sure that matters as Ofcom has upheld at least one complaint, albeit about a much higher up the scale word, even though it was used in the same way because context is completely irrelevant when it is considered to be among "the most offensive" even though it is not and despite the fact that words that come out more offensive in the research are allowed before 9pm and not considered to be among the "most offensive".

Anyway, the cashier didn't react at that and neither did the lads leave the shop or anything else happen. The cashier's objection thus didn't seem to be very real to me but probably just motivated by what they were supposed to say and I felt like saying (of course I never can) - "you must hear that every night on the television, and can't cope with it here?" How ridiculous!

What did happen was that I was completely fine when the lads said what they originally said and didn't have any reaction to it at all - I just ignored (actually rather like it:rotfl:). However, when the cashier responded with "just get out of the shop", I then felt quite uncomfortable at what had been said. So, the cashier actually saying "get out of the shop" caused me offence. It made me think back about the lad's word and then I felt quite uncomfortable about it. I didn't actually have any physical hit happening to me at the moments at which he used swearing. It was all normal-said, quite quiet and not aggressive.

It was the cashier whose behaviour - his saying what he did - caused me offence. Perhaps I ought to have told the cashier he had made me feel uncomfortable and ask for an apology for that; however I could not even say anything at all. The cashier actually made it offensive for me, and to that extent, probably unbeknown to him and completely without any intention on his part - but that's completely irrelevant - was in the wrong as what he said caused me to feel uncomfortable. It's not right to make people feel uncomfortable, without good cause. Such as news reporting in the public interest (which people are free not to watch) or a doctor informing a patient that they have a terminal illness. Otherwise, there is no good cause. (Obviously you have to upset someone to an unimaginable degree by revealing to them the latter but it's "right" that they should know.)

The cashier was therefore in the wrong by causing me offence (making me uncomfortable). I don't go into shops to be made uncomfortable by anyone, and especially I suppose not staff.
Albeit that had the lad never said that word in his normal conversation with his friend next to him, then the cashier would never have responded and thus I would never have been uncomfortable, so that the lad helped cause my discomfort too. But not on his actual saying of the word, and I was ignoring it happily up to the point of just after hearing the cashier's statement. The immediate cause of my discomfort was what the cashier had said. I'm not sure why: although they were some people of older generation also in the shop elsewhere, they were not in front of me or near to me and not within my sight, although I knew there were some there. I'm unaware of any young children being present, and none of the older people ever voiced anything or said anything that made me know they weren't okay (they probably never heard anything from the lad - probably not brought their hearing aids with them:rotfl::rotfl: - that was a joke, sorry, it is a bit ageist!:rotfl: (which is why it's funny and not normally like that:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: - don't normally make fun of people's age and/or potential infirmities that that brings) - but, no, everyone seemed okay and didn't make any objection. Except the cashier that caused me to feel uncomfortable. The lad called him something the forum won't let me repeat, but again quietly, not abusively shouted or aggressive, he just stayed where he was in the aisle and didn't go up to the till (where the cashier was), but by that point the cashier's reaction (which very soon later didn't seem very maintained as he didn't then respond to the name-call and didn't get anyone to eject the lad or do anything else), the reaction led to causing me discomfort.

I swear in everyday conversation too - when alone. I can't do so in a conversation in which every other party is doing so. I sound odd, and I think don't make friends because of it. They get the wrong impression from me by my formal speech. And it's not the person am I and I don't really like it - I wish I could but just physically can't make myself do it, but I've never spoken to anyone in RL about this and they don't know that that is the reason. Clearly, as a result, swearwords, in certain circumstances have a much greater effect on me than a lot of other people. It's because of how really bad they were made - or I inadvertently made them for myself - as a child, but then I was following my parents and teachers. My father actually gave me an apology, when, eventually, he and someone he knows managed to get me into a private room and get me to explain - it took me ages - and I just wouldn't what was clearly upsetting me.

I use it everyday - wish I could use it on here but the b*ggers won't let me!:rotfl: See, they won't even let me do that - print a word that has been on daytime radio, uncensored, in "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" by Monty Python and heard there by many children. Why? Are we all three year olds on this thread?:rotfl::rotfl: It doesn't bother me, that I can't be allowed to print it fully. But then when more severe is allowed without any problem?:huh: I just merely find it bizarre. Ridiculous:rotfl::rotfl: - and a source of amusement/bemusement:rotfl::).

I struggle anyway to work out the standards of this society or any logic or consistency, although I do a pretty good job (and appear very well to behave socially acceptably - haven't got myself into any real trouble yet so I must be doing something okay). This is one area, especially, where it is completely inconsistent and totally defying any logic. But then there is no logic in it to be found! It just makes me curious to want to see what other daytime radio and in front of the shop assistant words are not allowed whilst stuff that's only allowed late night on television is perfectly allowed through!:rotfl::rotfl:

I already decided and concluded long ago that there was no logic to be found, because there wasn't any and that I was trying to look for it where none exists, and that it also conflicts with other standards that the society purports to have but decides, for some or no reason, completely arbitrary, not to evoke on this occasion, maybe haphazardly on the next but then maybe not at all:huh::rotfl:! Just sums up your NT world people perfectly throughout.

(I actually didn't have any trouble with this and didn't even think about it when, ten years ago, I did not "know" that I had Asperger's - but when you do, as I nowadays do, then yes I can see how autistic people can think they have landed on the wrong planet even though I never had that experience in my childhood or much of my early adulthood. I just want through life like everyone does and that was that. Just never dated or had success at any social events, always went back home alone and never really knew why. It's body language connections lacking that are the problem (that's what I now know, from my perspective, and it's obvious when you can see it now in the way in which I do - I can tell you from my Asperger's view it is obvious) - and it's not a problem that can be resolved as NTs ignoring me is completely inadvertent on their part and they don't even realise as I can't communicate anything to them that way. And neither do I feel confident to go up to any stranger and talk to them - it's a bit more difficult for me - so they never know. And I never make any friends. Maybe people who I speak to - usually if I accidentally bump into another person and automatically say "sorry" may think my expression is a little odd, but nothing too out of the ordinary or overtly obvious.)

When you are disabled, you see what it's like being disabled - and, if it's a life-long condition, you don't know what it is like any other way or not being disabled. In a way, I don't even really see that I am disabled, because my life has always been this way and I've always seen it as normal. It's not really had any problems (though I suppose not making friends is, to some extent, a problem, in some people's views - and I don't have any view, as I'm on the fence objectively as usual) - the problems are each very subtle indeed, taken together they are the disability, but really it's not that great (but then again I don't know how much easier things would be if I didn't have the disability I've got and I have felt in the past that I've pushed my back out only to achieve the same result as everyone else seems to achieve effortlessly - but then I don't see other people's efforts that they have struggled to get that - but maybe I do work a little harder (I don't mean with the M list or anything) and maybe it is more difficult for me, but I don't know how much, or even if so, because it's always been that way for me and I've always had it this way - I think my inability to peel a potato properly, or hold it properly in my hand - I do it in a very strange way - I can do it but it's quite difficult - is actually a very subtle motor movement thing that is because of my Asperger's - I've never held a pen in my hand in the way that most people seem to either, but I write very fluently using a pen and can write extremely neatly. It's not things that you would say automatically that's a disability. But it's little subtle things like that).

I probably mis-read [red] the cashier situation, about whether his reaction was, in reality, feigned or not, as I didn't perceive any body language. His tone wasn't aggressive or really firm or anything other than just normal-said. I do get tone, but, then, maybe perhaps unknown to me, I think that I do but perhaps I don't. How could I ever know? I can tell tone, but maybe some very fine higher level subtleties within it are not heard by me but are heard by "everybody else". I cannot know whether that is the case or whether it is not. How can I know how anyone else perceives the world - maybe we all perceive it differently and individually? As far as I'm aware I can detect tones of voice. I just assumed automatically that I did, because that is what it appeared to me, but now I think about it and my Asperger's, and I can't now say that I actually know that I do. I don't know that. I think I probably do [perceive tones of voice. Certainly I can perceive different tones of voice]. But maybe there is something missing, that people normally hear, that I don't hear and have never heard. Interesting:rotfl:. Sorry not to be able to provide a definite answer anymore. To anything:rotfl::rotfl:.

His reaction wasn't overly firm. Perhaps it was firm. I don't know, maybe it was not. It didn't seem really insistent or anything. Just normal-said voice as far as I'm aware. Perhaps that was why the lad then didn't think it was necessary to leave. I don't know. Am I sounding as if I'm missing something that you, majority readers, as normal people, would have? I probably am:rotfl:.

tweets

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Tweets, just remember, at least you still have your mum to spend Christmas with. Believe me, one day you will look back on this with a smile.:)

Mum and DS are complete opposites to me I like to know what I am doing and time and am always early. Them two don't worry and are always running late lol.

DS just back from Mr T's I asked him to get me Christmas Cards if cheaper . He said Cards no cheaper so :eek: fetched me 2 oranges :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

harryhfp

Call_of_Trouty wrote: »

Of course dogs can freeze to death, if it's cold enough and dependent on type of dog.

http://www.animalplanet.com/pets/can-dogs-live-outside-in-all-seasons/

Savvybuyer wrote: »

I'm fine - I'm ignoring it!:cool:

(At least it's clear:rotfl:.)

...There's no pondering though is there, when it's clear? However, sometimes that can be part of the problem when it's clear - although not a problem for myself, on this occasion. I'm being very selfish aren't I - looking at me?:rotfl::eek:

Sorry for the OP and the annoyance they feel about what's been done to them.

We love you Savvs lol

tweets

Snap-ant wrote: »

Busy busy busy.

Went to Ts very early & got my essentials & the £2 Thorntons Mint Collection - Thanks Bubbs

Gave out lots of dairy MOCs to friends I saw shopping

Home in pouring rain, then text from Argos to collect the Guinness Pie dish, so back into town, home again.

Did have a go at B00ts glitch but emptied my basket as I don't need it

And my Kipling order has been delivered from Vente Privee :T

That's the best bit

I did wait before I posted quiz then sorry had to post

Sarahdol75

Well lovely letter in the post for me this morning.

A parking eye letter stating I was parked 35 minutes longer than allowed on a retail shopping park, a fine for £100.00 or £60.00 if paid in 14 days :mad: