Nationwide refusing to accept my DMP

Hi! I'm new here, only just joined today and really need some advise so please be gentle!
I've got myself in to a really bad financial situation so last year I had to enter in to a DMP with StepChange and am slowly beginning to make some headway in to my debt.the problem is that the main debt on my DMP is a £12000 personal loan with Nationwide. This month they've refused to accept the DMP payment from StepChange and have said they are no longer responsible for the debt. I've contacted Nationwide asking what's happening and if they've sold the debt on but haven't heard back from them yet.
I looked online yesterday and it appears that Nationwide are well known for rejecting the DMP payments after a year and then take people to court to get a CCJ and charging order on their property. Don't know if anyone's been in this position before but I'm just wondering if it sounds like that's what's happening in my case?
Any help or advise would be great!
TIA
Laura
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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,205 Ambassador
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    Hi,

    The usual process is that they will sell on the debt, don't have personal experiance with nationwide, but legal action may be a possibility as well.

    Worst case scenario, If they were to obtain a CCJ, then they can now apply for a charging order straight away, however, that does not mean you will lose your house, there is a court process to go through, and you would have the chance to put your case to the court before a charging order became final.

    As long as you kept to the courts payments, they can't obtain an order for sale.

    If the house is in joint names they can only apply for a restriction.

    A court would not make you pay more than what was affordable.
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  • rizla_king
    rizla_king Posts: 2,895 Forumite
    Nationwide - on your side. Except if youre on a DMP, then they are complete unts
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  • Sourcrates - thanks for your help, I really appreciate it, that's my biggest fear that they can make me sell my home. Me and my husband both live here but it's solely in my name.
    Rizla king - thanks again, from researching online that's what I feared! What's your personal experience with them if you don't mind me asking?
    The thing I can't understand is even if they are going ahead with legal action to take me to court, why refuse to accept the DMP payments?! Surely it's in their best interest to accept whatever they can get at this point?!
    Thanks again!
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,205 Ambassador
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    edited 6 December 2015 at 12:22AM
    LauzC1984 wrote: »
    Sourcrates - thanks for your help, I really appreciate it, that's my biggest fear that they can make me sell my home. Me and my husband both live here but it's solely in my name.
    Rizla king - thanks again, from researching online that's what I feared! What's your personal experience with them if you don't mind me asking?
    The thing I can't understand is even if they are going ahead with legal action to take me to court, why refuse to accept the DMP payments?! Surely it's in their best interest to accept whatever they can get at this point?!
    Thanks again!

    Ok, don't panic about this.

    Orders for sale are very rare, and you would be able to voice your objections beforehand, and remember, they can only apply for an order for sale, should you fail to pay any future CCJ instalments.

    The most likley senario will be the sale of the debt to a DCA, I say most likley, it's possible they may go the legal route, but as long as you respond to the court paperwork and stick to any agreed payments, you will have nothing to worry about.

    Usually consumer debts are sold on by original creditors, unless you owe an exceptionaly large amount of money.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thank you so much for replying, I feel slightly better about the situation now!
    I've contacted Nationwide asking if they've sold the debt on or what the situation is with it, and why they've stopped accepting the DMP payments. If they were in the process of bringing a CCJ and charging order against me, would they have to inform me now that I've asked the question?
    Also, my mortgage is unfortunately also with Nationwide, would this affect the situation at all?
    Thanks again for your help, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,205 Ambassador
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    Hi,
    They can't just "bring a CCJ".

    There is a legal process to go through called the "pre-action protocol- civil procedure rules".
    This means that they must write to you first offering you the chance to either pay in full, or agree repayment terms, and then to tell you there going to take legal action, if that's what there intending to do.

    They have to follow the rules, they can't just make it up as they go along.
    I don't think this will affect your mortgage, as long as it's up to date.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    if the mortgage is with them also, they are likely to know you own the house on your own so are likely to go for a charging order
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • Unfortunately Nationwide did exactly that to us. They obtained a CCJ and a charging order against our property. The only upside is they didn't add any costs onto this, and once paid this will be removed from the property. I was worried at the time, but have had no further issues with them, they said as long as we keep up payments not to worry about it. That was nearly 2 years ago and we have had no further contact with them at all. Hope this makes sense.
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  • If you are not happy with the way Nationwide are treating you, then you are entitled to make a complaint.

    If you are not happy with the response, you can go to the Financial Ombudsman Service, free of charge.

    As a rule of thumb, the Financial Ombudsman Service is likely to expect a lender to be sympathetic to borrowers in financial difficulty but obviously this will vary from case to case.
  • Sazzie23
    Sazzie23 Posts: 2,634 Forumite
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    LauzC1984 wrote: »
    Hi! I'm new here, only just joined today and really need some advise so please be gentle!
    I've got myself in to a really bad financial situation so last year I had to enter in to a DMP with StepChange and am slowly beginning to make some headway in to my debt.the problem is that the main debt on my DMP is a £12000 personal loan with Nationwide. This month they've refused to accept the DMP payment from StepChange and have said they are no longer responsible for the debt. I've contacted Nationwide asking what's happening and if they've sold the debt on but haven't heard back from them yet.
    I looked online yesterday and it appears that Nationwide are well known for rejecting the DMP payments after a year and then take people to court to get a CCJ and charging order on their property. Don't know if anyone's been in this position before but I'm just wondering if it sounds like that's what's happening in my case?
    Any help or advise would be great!
    TIA
    Laura

    Hi Laura

    Try to look at the positives, over on the DMP mutual support thread (come and join us), we've only had report of one DMPer on a charging order in about 4 years, and there are many many DMPers on here:o

    I can't see why nationwide would reject your DMP payment and then take you to court, be pointless really when the idea is to get the money back.

    It is common for debts to get sold on after 6/12/18 months depending on the creditors own rules. If SC says don't worry, don't worry!
    Sit tight, keep the money safe and then pay it when the creditors new details go through, can take 6-10 weeks, so don't get yourself in a tangle when you don't hear anything over Christmas.

    And any new or old DMPers are very welcome on the DMP support thread, Questions, problems or general moans.
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