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Is Landlord allowed to enter with notice but without permission?

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  • WolfSong2000
    WolfSong2000 Posts: 1,736 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Then it's up to you.

    You can refuse viewings, get issued a section 21 notice, leave the property and find somewhere else to live. If you don't need the reference in future I'd do that.

    The lock cylinder in the doorknob type of locks aren't usually deadlocks and a very insecure form of lock. They can also very easily be changed. They are also easy to break into. They are usually only used for internal doors. A crowbar can be used to jemmy the door and the latch and you're in within seconds without a key. Before taking on the tenancy I would have been demanding more secure deadlocks be installed.

    Landlord issued me with a section 21 last week as I was being "obstructive" by not allowing viewings weekday evenings. As an investment buyer wants to view this saturday he's changed his tune and said if investment buyer purchases I can stay on (but only because it suits him to tell investment buyer there is a tenant in place).

    I would like a good reference which is why I have tried to be as reasonable as I can, but I really value my privacy which is why I pay over the odds for my own place. Unfortunately I haven't been able to enjoy it as much as I would like due to pestering of letting agents to allow viewings plus the whole uncertainty, which was compounded by the issuance of the section 21.
  • HappyMJ
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    Landlord issued me with a section 21 last week as I was being "obstructive" by not allowing viewings weekday evenings. As an investment buyer wants to view this saturday he's changed his tune and said if investment buyer purchases I can stay on (but only because it suits him to tell investment buyer there is a tenant in place).

    I would like a good reference which is why I have tried to be as reasonable as I can, but I really value my privacy which is why I pay over the odds for my own place. Unfortunately I haven't been able to enjoy it as much as I would like due to pestering of letting agents to allow viewings plus the whole uncertainty, which was compounded by the issuance of the section 21.
    "If" an investment buyer purchases your property you can stay on. That gives me zero confidence at all. It makes no difference at all to an investment buyer if a tenant is in place when purchasing a property. Having a tenant in place can put off many owner occupiers who have to wait until you leave before the purchase can complete and that can take a very long time if you wanted to stay as long as possible. That will reduce the value of the property by only restricting the market to investors with the cash ready to buy.
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  • thesaint
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    I am (not so) surprised no one has asked what your contract says about "access for viewings".
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  • RAS
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    thesaint wrote: »
    I am (not so) surprised no one has asked what your contract says about "access for viewings".



    We must remember that a contract can still breach the rights to quiet enjoyment.


    The LL could serve notice every day that there will be a viewing, in line with the agreement, but I would think a judge would find that unreasonable.


    The long and short of it is, even if the agreement says that it's ok, the LL would have to go to court to enforce this. And it's simpler to evict.
  • thesaint
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    We must remember that a contract can still breach the rights to quiet enjoyment.


    The LL could serve notice every day that there will be a viewing, in line with the agreement, but I would think a judge would find that unreasonable.


    The long and short of it is, even if the agreement says that it's ok, the LL would have to go to court to enforce this. And it's simpler to evict.

    So based on the above(which is "misleading")the question does not require to be asked?
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    thesaint wrote: »
    So based on the above(which is "misleading")the question does not require to be asked?

    Not at all, I agree with you that it should be asked.


    I just mean the answer is not necessarily the final say on the matter - which I think you'd agree with
  • Westbeef
    Westbeef Posts: 50 Forumite
    He wants viewings, you're unable to accommodate them and he's offering to do it for you. What's the issue? I'd rather my landlord show people around than do it myself anyway.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Westbeef wrote: »
    He wants viewings, you're unable to accommodate them and he's offering to do it for you. What's the issue? I'd rather my landlord show people around than do it myself anyway.

    Think OP wants to be there so strangers aren't in their home (quite often people feel the same)


    I've met my LL twice, (30 minutes total) so there's no way she or anyone else would be in my house unsupervised.
  • NewShadow
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    The barrell of the lock is in the doorknob itself - can it still be changed? And by saturday morning?

    Not sure what type of lock you mean (there are a couple), but it seems easy enough to replace the entire doorknob.

    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+change+a+doorknob+lock
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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