Stop private parking companies charging disproportionate penalties in car parks

bod1467

Yes - but you're assuming that people actually ARE "in the wrong". The income PPCs earn from such people is a small percentage of the total.

dannyrst

bod1467 wrote: »

Yes - but you're assuming that people actually ARE "in the wrong". The income PPCs earn from such people is a small percentage of the total.

But my point the whole time has been that people who haven't followed the rules shouldn't use any possible excuse not to pay.

Those people are in the wrong.

If someone went to the same car park twice in a day, followed the rules and then got told they stayed the whole day, they have every right to fight that.

londonTiger

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

I have no problem with the owners of land exercising some control over their property.

There's a reason some of us don't fall foul of parking enforcement whomever is doing it, its because we understand their gaff their rules.
If there wasn't a sanction it would be a free for all with people paying balancing up whether the lower penalty being charged (if caught) might be cost effective as longer term parking.
The only way some people will act reasonably is if you hit them in the pocket, and as clamping has now been abolished for private parking companies, i see now other way for them to police their land effectively.
Read the sign with its warnings and make your choice, nothing could be simpler.

I won't be signing this petition.

yeah been driving 4 years now, never had any issues with private parking. If you don't just decided to chance it you can find their terms and conditions somewhere. I was at my local lidl and decided to go and grab a takeaway after my shop was done, I went over and found the parking notice and read it and it said parking is for customers only and customers are not allowed to leave their car at the car park and go offsite.

Fair enough I drove out of the lidl car park and parked onstreet.

Marvel1

ultimatefighter wrote: »

park outside the markings of a bay


SIGN THE PETITION HERE!

Based on this, no.

pvt

dannyrst wrote: »

If you enter private property and don't abide by the rules, you should be punished. Simple.

So Danny, where do you propose we might go with this idea of citizens being able to punish each other?

You happy if your local supermarket makes a rule the food isles are one-way-only and slaps you with a £100 fine if you accidentally push your shopping trolley the wrong way along one?

BeenThroughItAll

pvt wrote: »

So Danny, where do you propose we might go with this idea of citizens being able to punish each other?

You happy if your local supermarket makes a rule the food isles are one-way-only and slaps you with a £100 fine if you accidentally push your shopping trolley the wrong way along one?

As a strict up the aisle, down the aisle shopper, I'd personally be well-happy with that rule. Dawdling for a conversation with your mates would be an offence too, and chatting with the checkout person would be punishable by firing squad.

RichardD1970

dannyrst wrote: »

But my point the whole time has been that people who haven't followed the rules shouldn't use any possible excuse not to pay.

Those people are in the wrong.

If someone went to the same car park twice in a day, followed the rules and then got told they stayed the whole day, they have every right to fight that.

And that is where a lot of the problems with these private parking companies lie.

You are in the right, but your appeal to the PPC WILL be rejected, so then you have to appeal to the "independent" appeals service POPLA which, unless you know exactly the points to appeal on (no mitigation is considered), then you will lose that as well.

Then depending on the PPC in question you will either end up with a stream of threatening, official looking letters demanding money, or worse case, at court.

Good luck if it ever happens to you!

arcon5

If you can't eat your mcdonalds is less than 2 hours then you need to cut back on your junk food before it not only costs the land owner, but also the NHS

londonTiger

RichardD1970 wrote: »

And that is where a lot of the problems with these private parking companies lie.

You are in the right, but your appeal to the PPC WILL be rejected, so then you have to appeal to the "independent" appeals service POPLA which, unless you know exactly the points to appeal on (no mitigation is considered), then you will lose that as well.

Then depending on the PPC in question you will either end up with a stream of threatening, official looking letters demanding money, or worse case, at court.

Good luck if it ever happens to you!

they usually spell out their no return policy. Even council onstreet parking have no return hours.

pendragon_arther

There's a private car park in Windsor which was taken to court by the local council for over charging people who stayed for 5 mins or less over the time plus if their tyres were slightly over the white markings. This place is a monopoly as all streets are double yellow and the only one in the town centre. The enforcers were hell bent on squeezing hard-earned money from punters like you and I (and I take all this crap about private land-owners being able to charge what they like with a pinch of sea salt whilst the contributors are sitting behind the safety of a keyboard and not trying to park where they want at a reasonable price). So it just shows greed doesn't always pay.