Zero pay this month!

over_flo

Enquiring for a very distraught friend who started work in September.

Apparently payroll overpaid him in October and has paid him ZERO for November and claims that he still owes more which will be deducted next month.
None of this makes sense
Surely if it is their mistake ,they should explain how they came up with this figure and negotiate repayment ,not simply leave him with nothing to live on ?

t0rt0ise

So he got paid over double pay in October and has spent it all?

Takeaway_Addict

over_flo wrote: »

Enquiring for a very distraught friend who started work in September.

Apparently payroll overpaid him in October and has paid him ZERO for November and claims that he still owes more which will be deducted next month.
None of this makes sense
Surely if it is their mistake ,they should explain how they came up with this figure and negotiate repayment ,not simply leave him with nothing to live on ?

They need to explain where the overpayment comes from and the amount owing but ultimately has been said why did your friend not check the money was right, how can you not know you've been overpaid by double?

edwink

Surely alarm bells should of rang in October when he got double the pay he should have. Maybe he thought he would just keep quiet about it. But, now he has spent it and it has come back to bite him.

Oh dear!! Not sure there is much he can do now.

makeyourdaddyproud

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

They need to explain where the overpayment comes from and the amount owing but ultimately has been said why did your friend not check the money was right, how can you not know you've been overpaid by double?

How would that change things? Even if a concern was raised, the money would be redacted in subsequent months??

TELLIT01

There's clearly fault on both sides. You friend should/must have realised they had been over paid but still went an spent it all. The company shouldn't just take all the money back in one hit without at least telling your friend what they were about to do.
To me though, the vast majority of fault lies with your friend.

Takeaway_Addict

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

How would that change things? Even if a concern was raised, the money would be redacted in subsequent months??

what do you mean? The op needs to make sure the employer has got the correct figures at the very least?

makeyourdaddyproud

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

what do you mean? The op needs to make sure the employer has got the correct figures at the very least?

What I am saying is that given the prevalence of payroll software, telling them you're overpaid will make no difference to the checks built in to the software to correct such errors. Telling them you've been overpaid will not change the amount you're paid long term as the systems will autocorrect anyway, as what what happened in the OP's case.

Takeaway_Addict

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

What I am saying is that given the prevalence of payroll software, telling them you're overpaid will make no difference to the checks built in to the software to correct such errors. Telling them you've been overpaid will not change the amount you're paid long term as the systems will autocorrect anyway, as what what happened in the OP's case.

Absolutely, but if the OP had checked and realised they may have saved some money for this month.

sangie595

Leaving aside whether ort not an overpayment was made, and whose fault it was (which is not really relevant if an overpayment has been made, and assuming that this is not a final wage, then it is unlawful to deduct from wages where the deduction leaves someone at a level lower than the national minimum wage (in shops the rules are slightly different but a similar principle applies). Of course, the difficulty with this is that the employer has done it, and if the person stands up for their rights it may rapidly become a final wage. So technically the OP is correct, but it may not mean very much in practice

HappyMJ

sangie595 wrote: »

Leaving aside whether ort not an overpayment was made, and whose fault it was (which is not really relevant if an overpayment has been made, and assuming that this is not a final wage, then it is unlawful to deduct from wages where the deduction leaves someone at a level lower than the national minimum wage (in shops the rules are slightly different but a similar principle applies). Of course, the difficulty with this is that the employer has done it, and if the person stands up for their rights it may rapidly become a final wage. So technically the OP is correct, but it may not mean very much in practice

The 100% deduction for an overpayment in the next month is allowed. The employee would have still received minimum wages for all hours worked they just got it all paid in one month in advance. If they accidentally paid twice in October they don't need to make any payment in November and they won't be breaking any rules.