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Property Feeder lost 5% on purchase?

Hi
I have just invested in a property feeder fund and it has dropped 5% on purchase.
I notice the buy price is 77p and the sell price is 73p.
Would anyone be so kind to explain as to why this is?
Thanks
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  • AlanP_2
    AlanP_2 Posts: 3,559 Forumite
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    edited 24 November 2015 at 10:55PM
    Bid - Offer Spread.

    With some investments there is a difference between what a market maker will Sell At and what they will Buy At.

    Same principle as when you buy foreign currency for holiday or whatever, the broker will display a Buy & a Sell price for the same "product".
  • AlanP wrote: »
    Bid - Offer Spread.

    With some investments there is a difference between what a market maker will Sell At and what they will Buy At.

    Same principle as when you but foreign currency for holiday or whatever, the broker will display a Buy & a Sell price for the same "product".

    Hi, I have heard about bid offer spread yeah, but 5% seems a lot?
  • masonic
    masonic Posts: 29,397 Forumite
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    Hi, I have heard about bid offer spread yeah, but 5% seems a lot?
    Spread is often larger when the underlying assets held by the fund are illiquid.
  • MarkBargain
    MarkBargain Posts: 1,641 Forumite
    Hi
    I have just invested in a property feeder fund and it has dropped 5% on purchase.
    I notice the buy price is 77p and the sell price is 73p.
    Would anyone be so kind to explain as to why this is?
    Thanks

    I got caught out with that myself recently. I bought five funds and the L&G one immediately dropped 5%. If I had known, I would have gone for a different one.
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 19,244 Forumite
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    Hi, I have heard about bid offer spread yeah, but 5% seems a lot?

    What amount were you expecting from the documentation? It should have been displayed before you bought it
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • MarkBargain
    MarkBargain Posts: 1,641 Forumite
    jimjames wrote: »
    What amount were you expecting from the documentation? It should have been displayed before you bought it

    I probably should have read more closely, but I am so used to all funds I invest in having the same purchase and sale price through Charles Stanley Direct that I didn't notice.
  • I probably should have read more closely, but I am so used to all funds I invest in having the same purchase and sale price through Charles Stanley Direct that I didn't notice.

    SNAP! Haha. Exact same fund too mate. I never thought there would be a Bid - offer spread in a property fund.

    Lesson learnt. (Hopefully)
  • MarkBargain
    MarkBargain Posts: 1,641 Forumite
    SNAP! Haha. Exact same fund too mate. I never thought there would be a Bid - offer spread in a property fund.

    Lesson learnt. (Hopefully)

    My eyes always look at the Total Expense Ratio (TER) which at 0.63% looked good. The 5% is equivalent to eight years' fees in one hit on that one. As you wrote, lesson learnt.
  • slowpoke_rodriguez
    slowpoke_rodriguez Posts: 307 Forumite
    edited 24 November 2015 at 9:00PM
    I probably should have read more closely, but I am so used to all funds I invest in having the same purchase and sale price through Charles Stanley Direct that I didn't notice.

    Before you commit to buying a fund from Charles Stanley you have to tick a box confirming you have read the specific fund terms, conditions and charges. It's about a minute's read...
  • JohnRo
    JohnRo Posts: 2,887 Forumite
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    edited 25 November 2015 at 12:22AM
    Before you commit to buying a fund from Charles Stanley you have to tick a box confirming you have read the specific fund terms, conditions and charges. It's about a minute's read...

    They also email the date appropriate KIID as fund purchases are placed.

    (That said the KIID's charges description doesn't detail the spread.)
    'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB
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