Ukcps pcn

Umkomaas

The Deep - Quite frankly, your post is irritating at best. If you can delete it that'd be great.

What do you find irritating about TD's advice in trying to help you?

SirNoogle

Apart from the fact it's copied and pasted into pretty much every thread I've read so far? It might not be so irritating if the post was worded in a way that bore any relevance to my specific questions...

Ralph-y

I have to say that its not the best way to get informed advice from a forum by criticising one of the forum regulars and asking him to delete posts ....

I hope you are aware that the forum regulars are all volunteers who devote their time for free.........

Have a quick look to see how many posts per day come in .......

if all the members had to spend time answering to the letter every single post put up , then little would get done . Most regulars will have sets of saved text that they will rely on to save time ... I certainly do .

Please remember how easy it is to take or give offense when using such internet mediums.

Good luck and a merry xmas

Ralph:cool:

Umkomaas

As a forum regular I do get concerned over such comments which can make me think I might need to tread carefully with this poster! So what do I do? Move on and help someone else. There are already too many needing help; and I already spend too much of my free time dealing with the problems of others. I don't need any extra sh1te.

System

Apart from the fact it's copied and pasted into pretty much every thread I've read so far? It might not be so irritating if the post was worded in a way that bore any relevance to my specific questions..

+1

I think TD is one of those 'bots' that generates random phrases which are supposed to help an OP but somehow miss the mark.

Coupon-mad

SirNoogle wrote: »

So yeah...cocked up!

I thought you had to wait until you received the letter and then appeal. Letter was written ready to send for the appeal, but now presume the letter can't be sent it as the appeal time (21 days) has passed?

That's right. I like salmosalaris' latest suggestion here for IPC firms:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5381450

But do not then bother with IAS. JUST first appeal, just to make the points shown.

SirNoogle

Coupon-mad wrote: »

That's right. I like salmosalaris' latest suggestion here for IPC firms:

Link removed ********

But do not then bother with IAS. JUST first appeal, just to make the points shown.

I had a letter with the AOS code of practice points listed in it. It's vey similar to the one salmosalaris has posted in the other thread.

As I understand it now UKCPS LTD are not registered with the BPA (I have just checked the BPA website).

If I send the original letter (template from parking cowboys) would it just be ignored - knowing now that they are not registered with the BPA?

A copy of this is below...

Withoutprejudice, except as to costs

Parking Charge Notice - Notice to Keeper *******

This letter is a formalchallenge to the issue of your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to Keeperas set out in thecurrentBPA Ltd AOS Code of Practice B.22


On ******** I was the registered keeper of a ******** ******** registration number **********.


Before Idecide how to deal with your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to Keeper, I shouldbe grateful if you would first answer all the questions and deal with all theissues I have set out below. Once you have done so, I will be able to make aninformed decision on how I deal with the matter.


I should be grateful for specific answers to all questions raised. Inthis respect I remind you of the obligations set out in the current PracticeDirection on Pre-Action Conduct.

I dispute your claim for the reasons set outbelow. Please note that although I dispute the whole basis of the parkingcharge, my main concern is its disproportionate and punitive level.

1. Yourparking charge amount claim.


Please explain on which of the following grounds your claim is based:


(i) Damages for trespass

(ii) Damages for breach of contract

(iii) A contractual sum

2. Your loss.


If it is your case that that a trespass was committed or that a contractwas breached such that your claim is one for damages; please give me a fullbreakdown of the actual losses which evidences that this parking charge is atrue reflection of the damages caused solely by the alleged parkingcontravention.


3. Your status – the creditor.


Your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to Keeper simply mentions UKCPS Ltd.Please tell me who is the actual creditor making this £100 parking chargedemand. I need to know exactly who is making the claim and in what capacity.


4. Ownership of premises.


Please tell me who owns the car park as I wish to send them a copy of this letter.

5. Contractual Authority (as required by BPALtd AOS CoP B.7)


Please provide me with a copy of the contract between your company and thelandowner/landholder that provides the necessary contractual written authorityfor the issue and enforcement of your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to Keeper.


6. Signage.


If it is your case that a contract has been breached or thata contractual sum is now due, please send me photographs of the signs that youdisplay and upon which you seek to evidence that a lawful and legallyenforceable contract was been entered into. Please ensure that the photographsshow the terms and conditions in a clear and legible manner. Please provide mewith a diagram showing the locations and layout of those signs at the car park.Alsoprovide evidence that the wording is in plain and intelligible language and insufficiently large print as to be legible to a driver at the car park’s entrypoint.

7.Summary

I look forward to receiving your acknowledgement within 14days and as there are no ‘exceptionalcircumstances’ your comprehensive reply within 35 days (in accordance withthe BPA AOS Code of Practice B.22.8). I will then beable to make an informed decision as to how I deal with your Parking ChargeNotice – Notice to Keeper.

If you reject this challenge or fail to address the issuesthat have been raised then, in accordance with the BPA AOS Code of Practice 22.12, please ensure that you enclose all the requiredinformation (including the necessary ‘POPLA code’) so that I may immediatelyrefer the matter for their decision.

If you fail to follow any of the procedures outlined in theBPA AOS Code of Practice or your legal requirements under the Protection ofFreedoms Act, or the requirements of the Practice Direction on Pre-ActionConduct then I will make a formal complaint to the DVLA Data Sharing PolicyGroup, D16.

PleaseNote: Unless you have specifically requested it and received my expresspermission, you do not have my authority to disclose or refer this letter orany other communication from me to any other person or organisation.

Yours faithfully
Squiggle

pappa_golf

without prejudice? , do you "understand" the meaning of this?




and why waffle on about the BPA code of practice and POPLa codes ?


this lot are IPC.

Quentin

pappa_golf wrote: »

without prejudice? , do you "understand" the meaning of this?




and why waffle on about the BPA code of practice and POPLa codes ?


this lot are IPC.

Unnecessarily harsh


He told you where he got it from.


It's the cowboys who put all that in their suggested appeal, not the poor OP looking for help!

pappa_golf

ok I with rephrase the comment.


OP please do more research OR read the comments on this thread , this company is a member of the IPC , so any reference to the BPA or POPLa is a waste of time .


you will want the ability to refer back thru your paper trail if this ends up in the small claims court , so be careful what you write and make sure you have the legal means to produce those document's in front of a judge