Should I take them to court?

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bigjl wrote: »

Does anybody believe that this thread is a windup?

What kind of Toyota was it?

A Yaris with no back brakes?

Even if the thread isn't another of Dark Matters fantasies the car likely needs no more than new filter and perhaps a run through with an off the shelf AirCon cleaning product.

The personal injury will wind a court up.

He's not getting the fact he already had asthma and is now claiming asthma is a PI. Unless he's prepared to pay for an expert witness then the court will simply look at the fact there is no injury caused by the new car.

Wind up or buyers remorse? The jury is out on that one.

cajef

Iceweasel wrote: »

The OP hasn't said how he uses the AC -

Tucked away in one of their posts.

mr_stick wrote: »

The smell comes about even though I never use the AC.

AdrianC

bigjl wrote: »

Does anybody believe that this thread is a windup?

What kind of Toyota was it?

Your reading skills are on a par with your critical thinking. It's a Prius.

And having bought several extremely low mileage AirCon equipped cars from Japan over the years, all having spent extended periods of time in storage none of them had any mould growing in the AirCon systems.

Japan's a similar cool, damp climate to the UK, is it? No, thought not.

mr_stick

bigjl wrote: »

Does anybody believe that this thread is a windup?

What kind of Toyota was it?

A Yaris with no back brakes?

Even if the thread isn't another of Dark Matters fantasies the car likely needs no more than new filter and perhaps a run through with an off the shelf AirCon cleaning product.

And I can't remember the last time a main dealer had an 8 yr old car in stock either. Low mileage or not.

And having bought several extremely low mileage AirCon equipped cars from Japan over the years, all having spent extended periods of time in storage none of them had any mould growing in the AirCon systems.

No it's not a wind up.

The car was owned by an elderly person who hardly drove it. It has a full service history with the seller.

It is possible to find older cars at main dealers. Go to the Toyota Steven Eagell Letchworth website right now and you will find a 9 year old Prius with 60k miles. Sorry I am not allowed to post links.


Go to main dealer websites and you will find many such cars.

mr_stick

Iceweasel wrote: »

I was thinking the same about DM.

I would be changing the filter, using a spray cleaner and then running the AC permanently.

The OP hasn't said how he uses the AC - if it has been cleaned/serviced and then left unused then the smell will come back fairly quickly.

Of course the whole car is suffering from chronic lack of use.

I have tried many different ways of using it. I tried the whole running the air con for 10 mins on high with hot air and non-recirculation just before arriving at my destination. Did that for a few weeks and made no difference. In fact sometimes using it made things worse. The only thing that has every made a difference was cold temperature outside. When it's cold the bacteria are less active unless you use the ac.

neilmcl

Just leave the AC on all the time you drive it.

AdrianC

Just put the AC on, and LEAVE IT ON. All the time. It's how it's designed to be used, and it'll be the best way to clear it up.

Warmth and recirc? Seems like a great way to magnify the issue to me.

mr_stick

arcon5 wrote: »

Did you tell them of your condition?
If not then I fear they will argue it is standard wear on a car of that age, it is fit for purpose, jus tnot your purpose which you didn't make them aware off so wasn't missold

I don't understand how this can be the case. Many people suffer from asthma. Also having high levels of bacteria in the air can't be good for anyone even people without asthma. The fact is mould can cause people to get asthma and other illnesses. Thus it is not fit for purpose for the general population.

From a government website:

In 2004 the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found there was sufficient evidence to link indoor exposure to mold with upper respiratory tract symptoms, cough, and wheeze in otherwise healthy people; with asthma symptoms in people with asthma; and with hypersensitivity pneumonitis in individuals susceptible to that immune-mediated condition. The IOM also found limited or suggestive evidence linking indoor mold exposure and respiratory illness in otherwise healthy children. In 2009, the World Health Organization issued additional guidance, the WHO Guidelines for Indoor Air Quality: Dampness and Mould[PDF - 2.52 MB]. Other recent studies have suggested a potential link of early mold exposure to development of asthma in some children, particularly among children who may be genetically susceptible to asthma development, and that selected interventions that improve housing conditions can reduce morbidity from asthma and respiratory allergies, but more research is needed in this regard.

mr_stick

AdrianC wrote: »

Just put the AC on, and LEAVE IT ON. All the time. It's how it's designed to be used, and it'll be the best way to clear it up.

Warmth and recirc? Seems like a great way to magnify the issue to me.

Non I used non-recirculation.

I have tried so many methods but nothing works. The last time the local dealer cleaned it, they let the foam sit in the vents for an hour. And they vacuumed the system to remove any moisture for about an hour too. They said that they sent foam up the AC core and into all the vents too.Only a couple of days later the problem came back.

AdrianC

Sorry, mis-read/mis-understood. Non-recirc is the default, and what you really should be using 99.9% of the time, unless you absolutely definitely need recirc.

Foam in the vents and hoovering won't make that big a difference if the spores have spread through the entire system. The HVAC tracts are long and complex. To get at them all for a manual cleaning would require almost the entire interior and dashboard, and possibly a good chunk of the engine bay, to be stripped out. Seems to me that the best bet for a really deep clean would be introduce the sterilising agent via the cabin air intake with the fan running, all doors and windows shut, then leave it recirculating for a while, all with the direction cycling through all combinations. There may well be some diagnostic mode to allow that, because I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in the car with it going on.

However, and don't take this the wrong way, I strongly suspect that a relatively small issue has been magnified into a large psychological block for you, and you'll never trust this car again. Sell it.