Reserving car park spaces that don't belong to anybody in particular

AubreyMac

pogofish wrote: »

In a private or housing assoc car park, it may be that you all have allocated spaces - a check of your paperwork should reveal that but simply marking their spaces with random objects is probably not-on!

I'm puzzled why this is in MRF - Do you have a relationship with your parking space, or someone close under it? Housing, Motoring or Parking would seem a better choice of forum?

We do all have our own space each but in homes with more than 1 car this is where the problem lies. Neighbours house has 3 cars. It is not on but who has the right to tell them off?

The moment I had posted this, I realised it should go to motoring. Ah well, I don't know how to move it but will be fine for someone else to move it if they could.

AubreyMac

oystercatcher wrote: »

I wouldn't move cones to park simply because I would worry my car may suffer revenge damage when I wasn't looking.

This has crossed my mind. But bear in mind I know where they live (as they do me). It is an awful way to live in your own neighbourhood to be worried about where you park especially as that spot does not belong to anyone.

bearcat16

We used to have an idiot neighbour who did the cone trick on a public road. I used to hurl them over her hedge into her garden every time I came home. I got quite good at it if I do say so, but after a while I took to just stealing them and therefore forcing her to find a new one every day if she wanted to continue the pathetic practice.

That worked better than the "cone shotput" at stopping it.

sheramber

If you need to use the space at the time then move the obstacles but if you don't need to park there why bother?

They could argue that you putting your car there so that a visitor can use space is you putting an obstacle in the space to reserve it.

What of someone else has a visitor before your visitor arrives? Where do they park since you have , in effect, reserved that space

jjj1980

Parking by homes can be a nightmare!!


On my street, there are 4 sets of 2 semi detached houses, with three parking spaces to each pair of houses. One space for each house and a shared visitor space. Our tenancy agreements show the house numbers which share each visitor space and which parking space is allocated to which house.


However, one resident almost daily has numerous visitors, all at the same time who come in separate cars and take up every visitor space and most of the ones allocated to residents. If you are (un)lucky enough to be home at the time, you are quite often blocked in by her visitors. The Housing Association have told her numerous times that her visitors should one use the space her house shared with her attached neighbour and should not park in anyone else's space, nor should they be blocking people in/out of their own allocated spaces but they are totally ignoring the warnings. The Housing Association have now written to say they are looking at bringing in a private management firm, issuing permits and numbering the spaces to stop the inconsiderate parking.


On my mum's street, the houses either have a driveway or an allocated parking space, which has the relevant house number painted in the space. This was done by and is maintained by the council. My mum's next door neighbour quite regularly uses my mum's space rather than their own as they say due to the height of their front hedge they cannot see the car if they park in their own space! My mum has now had her space marked as a disabled space by Adult Social Care and the neighbours have complained that this is unfair as they prefer parking outside my mum's house than their own (the spaces are less than 2 metres apart) and they don't see why they should have to reduce the height of their hedge to make their car visible when using my mum's space gave them that visibility!!

AubreyMac

sheramber wrote: »

If you need to use the space at the time then move the obstacles but if you don't need to park there why bother?

They could argue that you putting your car there so that a visitor can use space is you putting an obstacle in the space to reserve it.

What of someone else has a visitor before your visitor arrives? Where do they park since you have , in effect, reserved that space

Surely on a non allocated spot is a first come first serve basis?

AubreyMac

jjj1980 wrote: »

Parking by homes can be a nightmare!!


On my street, there are 4 sets of 2 semi detached houses, with three parking spaces to each pair of houses. One space for each house and a shared visitor space. Our tenancy agreements show the house numbers which share each visitor space and which parking space is allocated to which house.


However, one resident almost daily has numerous visitors, all at the same time who come in separate cars and take up every visitor space and most of the ones allocated to residents. If you are (un)lucky enough to be home at the time, you are quite often blocked in by her visitors. The Housing Association have told her numerous times that her visitors should one use the space her house shared with her attached neighbour and should not park in anyone else's space, nor should they be blocking people in/out of their own allocated spaces but they are totally ignoring the warnings. The Housing Association have now written to say they are looking at bringing in a private management firm, issuing permits and numbering the spaces to stop the inconsiderate parking.


On my mum's street, the houses either have a driveway or an allocated parking space, which has the relevant house number painted in the space. This was done by and is maintained by the council. My mum's next door neighbour quite regularly uses my mum's space rather than their own as they say due to the height of their front hedge they cannot see the car if they park in their own space! My mum has now had her space marked as a disabled space by Adult Social Care and the neighbours have complained that this is unfair as they prefer parking outside my mum's house than their own (the spaces are less than 2 metres apart) and they don't see why they should have to reduce the height of their hedge to make their car visible when using my mum's space gave them that visibility!!

Wow!

It's great that the HA and council are taking action on it.

I've heard that parking is the no1 dispute amongst neighbours.

I have a friend who lives at the end of a row of terraces, people would park on the side of his house with two wheels on the pavement, sometimes leaving no space to walk on the pavement.

FBaby

Surely on a non allocated spot is a first come first serve basis?

The only difference between what they do and what you do is they use a cone, you used your car. Ultimately, the outcome is the same, someone can't park there during that time even though you don't need that spot at that actual time.

Personally, I think you are looking for trouble. As already suggested, I would move the cone only if a visitor of you needs the space.

onomatopoeia99

Reading this thread, I remember why I bought a small house on a good size plot with plenty of parking, rather than a big house on a tiny plot and minimal parking!

pogofish

AubreyMac wrote: »

We do all have our own space each but in homes with more than 1 car this is where the problem lies. Neighbours house has 3 cars. It is not on but who has the right to tell them off?

The housing association has the right - or at least their designated contractor for infrastructure/parking matters.

You - and they almost certainly agreed to conditions on number of cars/spaces per property, and how they need to be kept etc as part of your conditions. Taking it up with them might be the best way to resolve this?

Are all their vehicles roadworthy/taxed/insured etc - Its pretty normal for agreements to insist on all of these at all times for all vehicles on their land.