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  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 21 November 2015 at 5:13AM
    Let's get a JD Whiskey with the Cokes shall we?

    Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey (1L)



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    £34.00 £3.40 / 100ml

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      [Strike]£27.00[/Strike]
      £20.00
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      £30.00
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      £34.00


    ...And we got the deduction off our four packs of Coke Zeroes, but paid £34 for the whiskey and lost the £14 difference on it to elsewhere.

    Total net cost of Coke Zeroes with this particular JD therefore: 4 Coke Zeroes would have been 96p. But paid 96p + £14 "too much" on the JD = four Coke Zeroes at £14.96:eek:. Cost £3.74 each. So, it's got £1.26 off each one, but nowhere near 24p per pack that we specifically went out to buy them for but decided we may as well get some JD Whiskey whilst we were there:wall:. Obviously cost of eight other items then added to both the £1.26 'deduction', making it lower, and to the 24p cost (you can't get 4 Coke Zeroes and nothing else at all even the best shop).

    However, they wouldn't realise anyway and would be happy to pay the 96p+£35 bill plus cost of their other items (or even increased cost if more expensive in M) as they thought the whiskey was £35 and didn't know it was £20 elsewhere!(:rotfl:) That's at least £34 too expensive in my view in order to get some Coke packs.

    That's how badly it could go wrong (from the buyer's POV). Of course, they could get a different JD, which may work out better, or may even get a JD that turned out cheaper in M but, if it was more than about £1 cheaper, would lose some of the difference on that and effectively pay a bit more for it than if they'd bought it at M, if they were buying 4 Coke Zero packs.

    If just one person has bought the Cokes but paid £35 extra on items they wouldn't have bought tonight as they would not have been in T were it not for the Cokes, then that's covered the entirety of my saving and T has got the £20 for my 4 packs of Coke from between us:rotfl:. Although then they've also lost a Jack Daniels for £15 (in effect £5 cheaper than A's offer - not too much of a loss though as A can sell at that price and £5 really is like the value of an extra conditional spend or two that someone left at home, that their dog ate, or had expired, or didn't spend enough to use).
  • PEScum
    PEScum Posts: 33 Forumite
    Just got 16 boxes (4 shops)

    the SS guy was nowhere to be seen until my 4th shop and he queried the amount, I walked away and said I have paid, so sale complete... good night
  • Tinyshoes
    Tinyshoes Posts: 29,014 Forumite
    zippydooda wrote: »
    im over thelimit. can i ask if anyone intends to get the coke early in the morning please. my tills update about 4---5 am so good at LEAST till then

    I'm blaming you for getting me out of bed middle of night. :p

    Shop done just before 4am worked. Thanks bubbs. :beer: And of course aau for getting the finer detail. ;)

    Now to sneak back to bed before I'm missed. :o

    But glad I caught up with you all after being asleep all evening on the sofa I nearly left it until morning would have kicked myself for missing such an easy glitch. :eek: Once I had read zippys post about tills updating I couldn't get to sleep anyway. Car said 4.5 degrees I must be mad. :rotfl:
  • Tinyshoes
    Tinyshoes Posts: 29,014 Forumite
    Oh and while I'm here there is another John Lewis event on 2nd December check your emails.
  • Tinyshoes
    Tinyshoes Posts: 29,014 Forumite
    Not often I'm first with the Good Morning :D
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    Tinyshoes wrote: »
    Not often I'm first with the Good Morning :D

    I have haven't I? - I've let you sneak in there with, shucks, me being so rude earlier and failing to say good morning!

    Good morning!:)

    I was pretending I was not here, but, I am, I am still here:o:rotfl:. (Never any good at "pretending";):o:rotfl:.) Having been away and then back on here again.
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 22 November 2015 at 12:56AM
    Tinyshoes wrote: »
    I'm blaming you for getting me out of bed middle of night. :p

    Shop done just before 4am worked. Thanks bubbs. :beer: And of course aau for getting the finer detail. ;)

    Now to sneak back to bed before I'm missed. :o

    But glad I caught up with you all after being asleep all evening on the sofa I nearly left it until morning would have kicked myself for missing such an easy glitch. :eek: Once I had read zippys post about tills updating I couldn't get to sleep anyway. Car said 4.5 degrees I must be mad. :rotfl:

    EDIT: 21/11, 23:56: Obviously this is irrelevant now as the glitch ended around late lunchtime on 21/11/15 - the Saturday.

    They may update with T prices and deals - but, I think they're stuck with the M price data now until sometime on Monday when they get the results through from the price collection conducted on their behalf on that day. We saw, in the distant past, a change to M data taking place to match M prices that had only started on the Monday itself, taking place at T on the same day, so maybe there is some magic transmission system that manages to have it by lunchtime on the very day. Otherwise, if we're lucky it may last till Tuesday. It may depend on how well known or widespread it becomes. They may want something whereby they can change an individual price in the computer system - for example manually correct the 24p to N/A - but, with buildings and HQ systems being shut down and closed for the weekend?!?

    Imagine it though - if A did move to an instant system, with 10%, and we get the sort of glitch prices from the outset but instantly. Have to be careful we don't want a manual override for negative balances if some items better than free:rotfl:. It'd see us paying a few pence each time we shopped and I'd have to get used to going through the tills and the same pseudo-fright (not really at the level of fright) as I had at T earlier! I could get used to it.

    Had this been an A or S price on T's system, which again I think is unlikely to see the same things since they are taken from computers themselves scanning the websites (no human error), then those scans are daily I understand so, certainly, the data for A and S on the system may change today. And again tomorrow. But M - that's a bit more tricky. Unless they void the entire M data - but how are individual stores to do that? They don't have any input (at least as far as we're told) and the places in T that set and are responsible for these things are likely to be closed for the weekend? Then, of course, T would have to advertise in stores to the effect that customer may pay more if their shopping is cheaper at M since M would have been removed from the scheme, albeit temporarily. It would be misleading for posters and signs to continue to refer to M in the context of not paying more if they weren't actually comparing M. Or they could just continue regardless, make no-one aware and probably with very little consequence:rotfl:.

    I think it's likely to be an error at the central collation of the results (data entry) rather than the individual price collection. From the T&Cs, prices are collected in three Ms. And, where prices differ, they get the most common price etc. It's unlikely that 24p was collected at one M, 24p at another and £6 at another and therefore most common is 24p. If one of the three Ms, say, did not stock Coke Zero, then it could have been 24p collected in error at one and £6 (or any price) collected at the other - but then no most common price so it would be given N/A. Unless, somehow, they have 24p in error at one and the other two Ms neither of them stock the Zero variant. Actually that's possible - it is 'rarer' than Regular and Diet - so maybe it could be price collection after all? Otherwise, it's more likely to be central collation - simply putting in the pack number instead of the price that had been most commonly collected. Whatever the situation, it doesn't matter: enjoy your Coke Zero!:D:)

    Anyway, good morning and... good night?:o:o:rotfl::wave: (It's dark anyway, so maybe it is?)

    :wave::wave:
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    Sir_Dodgy wrote: »
    Many thanks bubbs and also the op on HUKD.

    1x HARIBO MAOAM GIANT STRIPES 60 PCE
    £0.10 £0.10 £0.10 £0.10
    1x MAOAM SOUR GIANT STRIPES 15G
    £0.10 £0.10 n/a n/a
    1x WARBURTONS MEDIUM SLCD WHT BRD 800G
    £1.00 £1.00 £1.00 £1.00
    1x SWIZZELS MATLOW WINE GUMMIES SINGLE 16G
    £0.10 n/a n/a n/a
    1x SWIZZELS DRUMSTICK LOLLY
    £0.10 n/a £0.10 £0.10
    1x GIANT NEW REFRESHER CHEW BAR (C)
    £0.10 n/a n/a £0.10
    1x BARRATT FLUMPS 12G
    £0.10 £0.10 £0.10 £0.10
    1x BUTCHERS CHOICE SUCCULENT MEAT VTY PACK 4X150G
    £2.00 £2.00 £2.00 £1.94:naughty::eek:

    2x HARIBO KIDS MIX UP/ STARMIX
    £0.20 £0.20 £0.20 £0.20
    2x HARIBO TANGFASTICS P/M 10P
    £0.20 n/a £0.20 £0.20
    4x COCA COLA COKE ZERO 24X330ML
    £20.00 n/a n/a £0.96
    1x BARILLA PENNE RIGATE 500G
    £1.50 n/a n/a £0.75
    Tesco comparable total £3.50 £3.70 £25.30
    Competitor shop total £3.50 £3.70 £5.45
    The difference £0.00 £0.00 £19.85
    the same the same cost less

    :naughty:

    No need to do any actual shopping from T with this thing!:rotfl:

    Or, maybe... I know I said goodbye;)... time to do a bit of M shopping at the same time:cool:. Nicely kept just under £20:D, well done! Made the same mistake as me probably on the Haribo Tangfastics:rotfl::rotfl:.

    Bye again:rotfl::wave:.
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 21 November 2015 at 6:51AM
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Successful PG shop as well, by the looks of it. Though I think I paid them a bit more than £1.86:rotfl: - I forget how much I pay, I really do!

    I know. I could have got some Cream Crackers at 40p instead, paid them two pence less and got 4p more back. However, we've already got crackers and I needed some cheese slices.

    8 items (7 different) on your receipt qualify for comparison Asda morrisons
    2x Young's Gastro Lightly Dusted Seeded Cod Fillets (230G) £7.96 £4.00:)
    1x ASDA Smartprice Lemonade (2L) £0.17 £0.17
    1x Munch Bunch Double Up Strawberry and Vanilla (4X85G) £1.59 £1.00:)
    [...]
    1x ASDA Smartprice 10 Singles (170G) £0.42 N/A
    Comparison total (compared products only) £12.52 £7.32
    +£5.20 cheaper

    [...]

    Should I really have bought Lemonade for about 15p when far more Coke Zero is probably by amount cheaper? Nearly eight litres for under 50p (including cost of fillers)?:think: Or a shade under 12p per 2L? :eek::eek:That's expensive Coke:rotfl:. Only 3p less than SP? Should have saved a lot more:rotfl::rotfl:.
    V. expensive Lemonade:laugh:.
    Shop done in any event before I knew about the Coke Zero. And I bought Lemonade because we did need it (not bought any before for months - I do try to cut down on these things:laugh:).

    What I don't quite get though is however Lemonade in M is cheaper than water (Savers at 18p)?:huh: Any ideas on that one. (Isn't Lemonade carbonated water, and therefore water to which you have to do a bit more?:think: Adding the flavourings and processing and... doing more than producing a bottle of water for sale?)

    Bye folks!:wave:
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 21 November 2015 at 7:10AM
    harryhfp wrote: »
    3 Gastros A v T
    beer battered
    lightly dusted salt/ black pepper
    lemon & herb



    obviously helps with the 8 items

    Last two better vs M though (or were yesterday) so are Avs M. M price is a good 50p better than T so, whilst it helps with the 8 items, yes, but surely you could put two different other items into a shop that are much cheaper than 50p? Or much cheaper than the extra cost of the highlighted Gastros on Avs T as opposed to Avs M - I'm not trying to give an exact figure. But I guess it also depends on how many shops you want to do/have time to do and what money/vouchers you have available to you.

    However since Northern Ireland has no M comp. - this is (or was? - don't know if still glitching today) Avs T for Northern Ireland. As you can't (or couldn't) get better. And also sadly can't get from T the Coke Zero:(. At least not at the price we're seeing.
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