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Myth: Generation rent is worse off than home-owning parents.

Fact: Freedom from the housing ladder offers the opportunity to live life a little more imaginatively

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/nov/03/myth-generation-rent-is-worse-off-than-home-owning-parents
Baby boomers love to wail and moan that those born in the 80s and 90s complain they can’t afford a house but they all have iPhones and laptops – and there’s some truth in that.
Once you accept that you’ll never own a home, money takes on a different hue. Where’s the harm instead in enjoying life a little more? An extra holiday, or deciding to eat out more, won’t affect your chances of getting on the housing ladder, because those chances stand at zero anyway.
Freedom from the housing ladder.
Instead, leading imaginative lives with iphones, laptops and extra holidays. Good stuff. :)
Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Not owning a home, or owning a home, doesn't change your income/outgoings.

    Indeed, rent can, for some, be more than a mortgage. It's certainly more than a mortgage 5-10 years down the line.

    So there is no mythical "spare money" to do exciting things with.
  • Masomnia
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    Not owning a home, or owning a home, doesn't change your income/outgoings.

    Indeed, rent can, for some, be more than a mortgage. It's certainly more than a mortgage 5-10 years down the line.

    So there is no mythical "spare money" to do exciting things with.

    Haven't read the article but I think the point they're trying to make is that because people have given up on home ownership they don't bother to save for a deposit. Maybe some truth in it I don't know.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Masomnia wrote: »
    Haven't read the article but I think the point they're trying to make is that because people have given up on home ownership they don't bother to save for a deposit. Maybe some truth in it I don't know.



    with mortgages at 2% and rents at closer to 5% of the value of a home if the deposit is 10% the break even point is about 3-4 years

    So a renter can spend more for 3-4 years instead of putting together a deposit. Or they can try to put together a deposit and buy a home and spend more for 50 years as their mortgage will be lower than the rent
  • PasturesNew
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    Masomnia wrote: »
    Haven't read the article
    Always the best approach when responding to a thread :)
    Articles in links are often long/tedious and incomprehensible.
    Masomnia wrote: »
    I think the point they're trying to make is that because people have given up on home ownership they don't bother to save for a deposit. Maybe some truth in it I don't know.
    And the point I am trying to make is that there's insufficient money to be able to save up for a deposit after you've paid the rent (don't get me started on short-term tenancies, insecurity and HUGE agent fees/moving costs when you're out on a whim)

    Any deposit you MIGHT be able to save would soon be gobbled up after 2-3 moves have been thrust upon you.
  • beanie414
    beanie414 Posts: 117 Forumite
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    I was laughing at some of the comments below the article.:rotfl:Very sarcastic.
  • cadon
    cadon Posts: 132 Forumite
    cells wrote: »
    their mortgage will be lower than the rent

    Not in London, for the very simple reason that the smallest property you can buy is a studio, and many professionals rent pokey rooms in houses because that's all they can afford.

    Like for like rent v mortgage may well go in favour of mortgages, but in London, people are often looking at buying places bigger than what they currently rent!
  • Conrad
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    What's happened to all the voices calling for Brits to be more European in mindset, happy to rent, not obsessed with ownership?


    This was a common refrain prior to the crash, but now the puritan preachers have moved their vocal pitch onto new ground, inability to buy.
  • kaya
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    My mortgage is £520pcm, to rent it would be £1500 which makes generation rent look a little worse off
  • Crashy_Time
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    Not owning a home, or owning a home, doesn't change your income/outgoings.

    Indeed, rent can, for some, be more than a mortgage. It's certainly more than a mortgage 5-10 years down the line.

    So there is no mythical "spare money" to do exciting things with.


    And for the boomers who have missed the last selling exit point there will be no "free money" (not as much as they thought they deserved anyway) for holidays and retirement either, so tough titty either way really. Only the bankers win in the end in this casino.
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    kaya wrote: »
    My mortgage is £520pcm, to rent it would be £1500 which makes generation rent look a little worse off


    My rent is 400 p.m so I am not really bothered either way, are you hoping/needing to sell at a certain price to make it worthwhile?
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