Eicr

baldelectrician

Risteard wrote: »

An Electrical Installation Certificate pertaining to the replacement of a Distribution Board does not certify anything else. It certifies only the work detailed within it. Really a periodic inspection recorded through an Electrical Installation Condition Report, on the other hand, will report on the condition of the electrical installation notwithstanding any agreed limitations on the inspection.

When you change a consumer unit you check every circuit anyway. The check is slightly more limited than a full EICR but not that far off.


It would tell the client if the house needs a rewire


Remember an EICR only checks what is seen- you don't get to check below floors, behind walls etc.
A EICR (by definition) also has a lot of limitations

Risteard

baldelectrician wrote: »

When you change a consumer unit you check every circuit anyway. The check is slightly more limited than a full EICR but not that far off.

All you really need to check is that disconnection times will be met by the new devices. You do not take ownership of the existing installation - hence the Extent and Limitations boxes.

An Electrical Installation Certificate (initial verification) and Electrical Installation Condition Report (periodic inspection and testing) cannot be used interchangeably.

And as for your other point I specifically mentioned "agreed limitations" during periodic inspection and testing in my previous post.

Risteard

starving_artist wrote: »

Now I'm glad you told me that because I've just spoken to another electrician and he talked about doing a periodic inspection and I thought it was the same thing as an EICR.

Periodic inspection is the process which has its findings detailed within an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR).

zax47

Risteard wrote: »

Periodic inspection is the process which has its findings detailed within an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR).

Prior to the recent amendment to the BS7671:2008 17th Edition IET wiring regs, it was called a PIR (Periodic Inspection Report), now it's called an EICR (Electrical Installation Condition Report). Some changes to what applies to each of the reporting categories (Must do, should do, could do {my definitions}), but it's the new name for the same thing.

Risteard

zax47 wrote: »

Prior to the recent amendment to the BS7671:2008 17th Edition IET wiring regs, it was called a PIR (Periodic Inspection Report), now it's called an EICR (Electrical Installation Condition Report). Some changes to what applies to each of the reporting categories (Must do, should do, could do {my definitions}), but it's the new name for the same thing.

Indeed, but the actual process is still officially known as periodic inspection and testing, as opposed to initial verification.

It is only the report which has been renamed from a Periodic Inspection Report for an Electrical Installation to an Electrical Installation Condition Report.

zax47

Content has changed too, changes to reporting codes et al.

Have a look in your new Yellow book at the differences on the forms. You have the latest regs, yes?

Risteard

zax47 wrote: »

Content has changed too, changes to reporting codes et al.

Have a look in your new Yellow book at the differences on the forms. You have the latest regs, yes?

Of course. I am well aware of the differences. I was just pointing out that the process is still known as periodic inspection and testing despite the report no longer being called a PIR.