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School Holiday Fines
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I appreciate your points but we are (I assumed) talking here about parents who have chosen to enrol their children in a state school. In which case what I said applies.Just to be technical:
Duty of parents to secure education of children of compulsory school age.E+W
The parent of every child of compulsory school age shall cause him to receive efficient full-time education suitable—
(a)to his age, ability and aptitude, and
(b)to any special educational needs he may have,
either by regular attendance at school or otherwise.
Also worth noting s.9
Pupils to be educated in accordance with parents’ wishes.E+W
In exercising or performing all their respective powers and duties under the Education Acts, the Secretary of ...State and local education authorities]shall have regard to the general principle that pupils are to be educated in accordance with the wishes of their parents, so far as that is compatible with the provision of efficient instruction and training and the avoidance of unreasonable public expenditure.
But hey, why let the law get in the way of a good rant eh....
If you decide to opt out, as you are quite able to do, then the bets are off. This can be by enrolment at a private school or through home education.
Apologies for the mixed use of "fines" and "penalty notices", they tend to be used interchangeably by the parents I deal with and so I do too.0 -
mse Megan calls them fines so you're in good company.;)
Home educating would seem to be an obvious answer to all parents who'd prefer not to follow school rules.0 -
I appreciate your points but we are (I assumed) talking here about parents who have chosen to enrol their children in a state school. In which case what I said applies. - Yes but you brought up the UN and right of children to have an education; and how parents would be abusing children by taking them out of school. So I thought it would be worth clarifying that part of your post.
If you decide to opt out, as you are quite able to do, then the bets are off. This can be by enrolment at a private school or through home education.
Apologies for the mixed use of "fines" and "penalty notices", they tend to be used interchangeably by the parents I deal with and so I do too.
Indeed, it's a mistake often made. Wont pass any comments on education standards
I think it's worth people knowing that there are two key governing laws.
1: the obligation on parents to provide an education.
2: the obligation to attend school if enrolled.
The rights of children are covered more by the first, than the second in my opinion.0 -
Ah but it's a lot easier for parents to !!!!! about the system they have chosen to enrol their children in than to try to do it themselves.mse Megan calls them fines so you're in good company.;)
Home educating would seem to be an obvious answer to all parents who'd prefer not to follow school rules.0 -
Indeed, it's a mistake often made. Wont pass any comments on education standards
I think it's worth people knowing that there are two key governing laws.
1: the obligation on parents to provide an education.
2: the obligation to attend school if enrolled.
The rights of children are covered more by the first, than the second in my opinion.
The right remains no matter where/how a child is educated.
The point is that if you as a parent pass your responsibility for educating your child onto a state school then they are going to make damned sure that they are seen to do that job properly, including making sure the child turns up when they are supposed to.
Don't like it? Do it yourself.0 -
The right remains no matter where/how a child is educated.
The point is that if you as a parent pass your responsibility for educating your child onto a state school then they are going to make damned sure that they are seen to do that job properly, including making sure the child turns up when they are supposed to.
Don't like it? Do it yourself.
I didn't say otherwise, I'm saying that the law clearly places the emphasis on parents to educate their child.
It would then be contradictory to label parents abusers when they try to provide an alternative to a failing education system.
More parents would home school if the costs weren't prohibitive ( in terms of lost wages ) - the problem Ofcourse is inflexible educators who are beyond caring about the actual education children get as long as the school gets a good ofsted rating.0 -
Lol. Troll more?I didn't say otherwise, I'm saying that the law clearly places the emphasis on parents to educate their child.
It would then be contradictory to label parents abusers when they try to provide an alternative to a failing education system.
More parents would home school if the costs weren't prohibitive ( in terms of lost wages ) - the problem Ofcourse is inflexible educators who are beyond caring about the actual education children get as long as the school gets a good ofsted rating.
Anyway, I don't think this is a forum for this kind of discussion, it's for practical advice about fines. Let's stick to that.0 -
Apologies for the mixed use of "fines" and "penalty notices", they tend to be used interchangeably by the parents I deal with and so I do too.
Not to mention the government!
"You can be fined for taking your child on holiday during term time without the school’s permission."
https://www.gov.uk/school-attendance-absence/overview 0 -
I didn't say otherwise, I'm saying that the law clearly places the emphasis on parents to educate their child.
It would then be contradictory to label parents abusers when they try to provide an alternative to a failing education system.
More parents would home school if the costs weren't prohibitive ( in terms of lost wages ) - the problem Ofcourse is inflexible educators who are beyond caring about the actual education children get as long as the school gets a good ofsted rating.
Are you sure MOST parents would choose home schooling? I get the feeling that they value the child care in schools above any educational advantage as evidenced by the moaning about training days or even snow!
Imagine if you as an adult had 13 weeks holiday agreed with an employer then chose to take additional time for a family holiday. Would you describe the employer as inflexible if they sacked you?0
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