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Dispute with other landlord - HELP!

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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    edwink wrote: »
    I would pay the bill but I would consider maybe making the LL wait 4 months for his money. Tell him you will pay it but do so in your own time.
    Good grief, how petty!

    The LL (why are we still calling him a LL?) has suffered damage to his property. Pay him this insignificant amount which is rightfully owed.

    This 'LL' may or may not be a friendly, approachable person (whatever), but what has that to do with the situation?

    The OP either
    * stupidly left his handbrake off, risking causing a serious accident, injury, loss of life, or
    * failed to maintain his car in a roadworthy condition (even worse!)

    £170 is peanuts.
  • AdrianC
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    Button86 wrote: »
    and I am quite sure that he is not allowed to charge us for an itemised bill

    Honestly, I don't quite understand why an "itemised bill" is so important to you. You know exactly what the bill is for. Perhaps you'd care to reply to post #14?
    All along, the landlord has been aloof, unresponsive and distant, yet as soon as he wants paying, he comes flying at us all guns blazing and demands payment without any respect of our reasonable request.

    Put yourself in his shoes. Your next door neighbour forgot to put their handbrake on properly. The inevitable happened, and you've had to drop everything and fix the damage. Now they're getting all entitled with demands for paperwork...

    Just pay for the damage you caused. It is not an unreasonable amount, and it could very easily have been a LOT more serious.
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    OK, so you stand your ground, and get an itemised bill.

    "Repair window sill.
    Repaint window sill.
    Refix downpipe, replacing damaged fixings as necessary.
    £170, inc VAT"

    Now what?
    It's subtle, but the now what is nothing. Whereas if there is no bill, the claimant can come back and say the the £170 was only an interim payment.

    I am distrustful of the scenario and the threat to charge an admin fee makes me wary of the claimant. I think OP should stick to their guns.
  • AdrianC
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    It's subtle, but the now what is nothing. Whereas if there is no bill, the claimant can come back and say the the £170 was only an interim payment.
    An "itemised bill" makes no difference whatsoever to that (tiny) risk.
  • Kynthia
    Kynthia Posts: 5,692 Forumite
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    edited 26 October 2015 at 8:27PM
    £170 is far less than it could have been. My friends had a new brick porch built and less than a week later a car rolled into it. The structure was compromised and had to be shored up and rebuilt. Repairs cost a lot more than £170.

    It might be annoying but the property owner doesn't have to keep to your schedule and was inconvenienced when you damaged his property.
    Don't listen to me, I'm no expert!
  • leeruddecology
    leeruddecology Posts: 86 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2015 at 8:32PM
    I appreciate that you want an itemised bill. However, you obviously know what damage was caused so it's unlikely he is pulling a fast one on you.

    Your be surprised how much it costs to have someone do a days work. I honestly would just pay it and put it down to bad luck. It could have been much worse.

    My car was left in a carpark once and also rolled down the carpark into a car. Minor damage to his. Cost me 100£ for him to get his friend to fix it. Doubt it cost that but my car was fine and it made the problem go away.
  • Davesnave
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    Button86 wrote: »
    Really I just feel like my honesty and integrity has been abused....

    We did not *lie* to our insurance. We didn't speak to them at all. .
    I think you'll find that a condition of your policy is that all accidents involving the vehicle should be reported, whether a claim is made or not.

    So your stance here on the moral high ground may be just a little shaky!
  • tealady
    tealady Posts: 3,851 Forumite
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    Hi
    If you want an itemised bill just tell your car insurer what happened and give their details to the landlord.
    Then he may stop hassling you and you may get a full breakdown of costs.
    However your car insurance may go up next year so it's your call.
    BTW I suspect the landlord could still claim off your car insurance whether you want him to or not. Its a risk you may not want to take.
    Find out who you are and do that on purpose (thanks to Owain Wyn Jones quoting Dolly Parton)
  • tealady wrote: »
    BTW I suspect the landlord could still claim off your car insurance whether you want him to or not. Its a risk you may not want to take.
    Not the case at all. The Landlord can only claim off OP. OP does not have to reveal anything about the insurance to LL. It is OP's choice as to whether to pass a claim on to the Insurer.

    Having said that, it is generally a condition of insurance that all claims are disclosed.
  • caprikid1
    caprikid1 Posts: 2,499 Forumite
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    OP, this sounds such a fair price to me, I don't think its unreasonable for you to pay more for a fully itemised bill time is money. Has the Landlord charged you for his time in arranging a tradesman getting they multiple quotes ? I highly doubt it, I reckon it would take me a few hours of time and inconvenience.


    You were totally negligent, you could have seriously hurt someone and you are !!!!!ing about £170, seriously you are typical of what is wrong with our society. Hopefully if it happens next time he will just ask you for your car insurance and you can pay for the next 5 years.
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