Natural birth vs caesarian

ripplyuk

duchy wrote: »

How extraordinary- most of the women I know who had natural delivery don't......including myself. (I was determined not to have a C section if at all possible despite my son's breech presentation. I do think non medically essential C sections fall into the same catagory as gastric bands performed far more often than they need to be.

I've never heard so much scaremongering rubbish in my life !

A birth with no intervention isn't going to cause long term bladder problems for normal woman.

Really the things people come out with on here astound me . To claim every woman who delvers naturally lives a restricted life is completely ridiculous :rotfl:


You apparently have very odd friends !!!

No, my friends are not odd. The women I'm referring to are perfectly normal. Comments like that are a good example of why a lot of people are too embarrassed to seek help for, or even admit to this problem.

I did not say every woman has this problem. I said 'every woman I know'. I am well aware that statistically, lots of women do not have incontinence problems after childbirth. Just not the women I know. In response to your later post, none of them are in their 80's. All of them except one are aged under 40. Nor did they neglect themselves, or do anything wrong. Sadly, it seems they are often made to feel that they did.

My grandmother tells me that her generation regards this issue as 'just part of having babies'. She says there wasn't any sort of stigma around it when she was young. (Unfortunately, there seemed to be no treatment available either)

It's a shame to see women being called 'odd' because of it now.

duchy

I'd think it odd if all my friends claimed to be incontinent -and they are almost all over forty ....... and in some cases much older.

Yes your post is odd in that you claim ALL the women you know who are all under forty bar one suffer from incontinence and live what you describe as restricted lives.

Either you are over egging to try and make your point or there is something very strange going on. Your experience is not in any way normal and for an entire social group of this age group to all suffer incontinence bar one (who happens to be the only one who had a C section) implies there is something else going on. How many friends do you have/women that you know -are we talking say three women or thirty ?

Statistically you are indeed "odd" but then so is discussing incontinence with every woman that you know ...... that to a lot of people is odd too. It's something you'd discuss with a best friend but not "every woman you know"

It really is unbelievable !

To put it in perspective if you google you'll find most women with natural births who suffer first time incontinence directly after a natural birth is around 20% rising to 30% with forceps ...... some women recover and have no further issues but 20-30% of those women will have further problems within five years - however that is a long way from your anecdotal 100% of all women you know who delivered vaginally. Usually there is a reason for a blip like you describe -like a very poor maternity service or something else peculiar to your area or social group . If all your friends delivered under the same maternity service then I wouldn't be accepting it as "unlucky" but wanting a proper explanation for the sake of all women in the area.

annie_d

I had both…Natural first then a C section the year after ( due to placenta preavia) and a c section the year after that due to the c- section scar from the year before starting to rupture.

I would go for C section every time. It's controlled, you are 'on top of it". I had 3 under 3 and it was fine…tummy hurt but it wasn't the end of the world…though the scar took 15 months or so to heal…it didn't feel like a big deal at the time.

I had a general anaesthetic on the second birth and an epidural PLUS a general on the second C - Section as the pain wasn't controlled…….i would still opt for a C section, all these years on.

annie_d

OH! i just re-read some posts…..yes, i still have completely numb areas around the scar 30 years on but that is no big deal.