parking permit taken away

Herzlos

Each one he appeals to POPLA will cost the parking agent £27 + VAT. It won't take many appeals for you to get whitelisted.

Your neighbour could cost them £104 in a single hit for the cost of 4 stamps and 20 minutes admin.

Who owns the actual road?

rr2

The lease section doesn't mention anything on permits, it just states things like i can't keep an untaxed vehicle or boat on the drive

Guys_Dad

rr2 wrote: »

When you say appeal, i am not sure i understand this. Elite have just done what they were instructed to do - give anyone on the road a ticket. How do i appeal this? I think my situation goes deeper than that?

Everyone does! The fact is that their charges are ridiculous and the deal you did when buying the house has been overturned.

Please just read the NEWBIES thread.

Or pay Elite if you prefer.

Marktheshark

Your deeds only cover what you own, they can not make provisions or provide provisions on land not owned.
If the road is privately owned land, other rights of access they can do as they like.
If it is land owned part of the management trust structure then you can vote out and sack the management agents and install your own.

It sounds like they have fooled you all with a crisis, reaction and solution to a problem that did not really exist.
Now all your pockets are going to get emptied quick sharp.
I would call an emergency meeting, invite the management company and inform them it will be a vote to remove them over the parking issue, if the vote succeeds it will be made an official ballot and the due process to remove them under the Right to manage act.

Inform the agents that this is the only issue and they are free to put forward a binding resolution before the vote.
Make it very clear this is their chance to keep their jobs, they work for you, the tail will not be wagging the dog and any money making scheme they have come up with is contrary to their employers (YOU and other residents) interests and as their employers in a tri-party common law arrangement you can and will sack them as they are your agents employed by you.

This might focus their attention.
One show of hands out in the street is enough to ballot the residents.

rr2

I like that idea. However, the issue with voting against is the majority ie the apartments are happy with what they are getting. Your point is very true, they have said before they are working for us, to stop non residents from parking on our road. At the moment the only people being punished are the residents.

The Landlord is the builder. Not entirely sure this means they own the road.

DandelionPatrol

rr2 wrote: »

The document i have found is called Report on contract and mortgage. It is from my solicitor at the time.
it states in searches in points to note

'There is a length of private roadway leading from the public highway to the property. Rights of way are granted by your deeds to use the driveway subject to you paying a fair proportion of the maintenance and repair. You are not entitled to park or obstruct the roadway."

That seems fairly definitive. It would override any representations which were made to you earlier.

Marktheshark

That is how any PPC works, you are always the victims.
The management often get corrupted by the cash on offer, finding out if they are on a kick back should turn the tables.
Even the non effected residents need to be made aware of the implications of having any work done, visitors at Christmas or similar, even removals or food delivery.
Nobody is going to want to risk it, all life will get expensive, supermarkets wont even deliver once they get hit.
One resident will be in on the scam and doing the ticketing, they need shining out in to the light as well.
A bit of door knocking and leaflets and you can soon have them and their little scam to rip you all off...out.

Do you have a garden you can convert to a parking space ?

rr2

Hi Mark, solid advice thanks. Trying to get out of the ticket is one issue but the actual management is a bigger problem, I will definitely get in touch with neighbours.

This is the next problem, people are digging up their tiny front gardens or just parking on them. It looks awful!

rr2

DandelionPatrol wrote: »

That seems fairly definitive. It would override any representations which were made to you earlier.

Would that affect an appeal on the ticket?

ampersand

Make sure that the 'f - - -' word is NEVER used in your conversations, dealings, leaflet drops, with anybody affected or concerned.

This is a 1st principle on this Forum.
For the ignorant victim, the impressionable incentivised managing agent or malign resident, that word falsely carries weight and authority, neither of which applies to parking on private land.

'Unenforceable invoices' is what has to be hammered into the mindset of residents, management, builder/Landlord - and any rodent resident taking a %. Plenty of threads on such cases.

White list would go part-way, but not, as Mark says, for unexpected/emegency/variable callers/visitors/deliveries.
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As for 'Do you have a garden you can convert to a parking space ?'
Why should you? This apart, increased hard-standing on new estates is creating serious water run-off and flood problems.