Tax Credits

Mistermeaner

Time for constitutional review I think.

Or fill the Lord's with tories

andrewmp

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Time for constitutional review I think.

Or fill the Lord's with tories

It would cost a lot to fill the lords with new Tory peers, surely not in times of austerity?

Mistermeaner

Most of them are loaded, they'll do it for free

Mistermeaner

Max 16 hrs a week though. Wouldn't want them to lose their tax credits

kinger101

Given the next budget is coming up in less than 6 months, I wonder whether George will just stick it in the next Finance Act. Can't see the Lords blocking that.

Graham_Devon

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Time for constitutional review I think.

Or fill the Lord's with tories

Just make sure that the cuts do not severely impact people.

Plan the cuts so that the planned increases in minimum wage and tax free amounts cancel each other out.

It's not all that difficult. There was no need, other than politics, to create the system that was... a system that saw the people who can least afford it losing upwards of £100 a month.

There would not be this "crisis" if the cuts had been planned sensibly.....

Secondly, a lot of the peers appear to be concerned about the bare faced lies from Cameron just before the election.

This is a problem the tories have made for themselves. If they hadn't have lied about it, or hadn't have cut so harshly while also lying that people would be better off, the lords wouldn't have done this.

It's not as if this is all Labour and the Lib Dems. It's conservatice MPs and Lords against it too. Even Nigel Lawson stood up in the lords against the way this was carried out stating just listening was not good enough, the policy had to change.

michaels

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I reckon this is one of the better things the lords have done...

Is that because you don't believe in democracy and would rather a few over-privileged unelected do gooders decided what is best for you rather than the people you voted for?

Graham_Devon

michaels wrote: »

Is that because you don't believe in democracy and would rather a few over-privileged unelected do gooders decided what is best for you rather than the people you voted for?

What's democratic about lying to the electorate?

And I didn't vote tory.

andrewmp

kinger101 wrote: »

Given the next budget is coming up in less than 6 months, I wonder whether George will just stick it in the next Finance Act. Can't see the Lords blocking that.

I'd doubt he'd get it through commons in its current form.

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What's democratic about lying to the electorate?

And I didn't vote tory.

hopefully there were no LibDem lords who were outraged at lying to the electorate (some might remember a very specific promise about uni fees)


or indeed labour Lords (some might remember weapon of mass destruction plus a bucket load of broken promises)