can social housing landlord impose restrictions without a court order?

BlueEyedGirl

It can be quite stressful when someone is invading your personal space where you live i.e. unruly children whose parents think they have a God given right to do anything and to hell with the rules!

bouicca21

It sounds to me as if there are two, not necessarily exclusive, approaches to this knotty set of problems. One is for the complainants to keep their own set of diaries and evidence. The other is to seek some sort of mediation so that all parties concerned can work out how to live together in some sort of harmony. The HA may well either have its own neighbour relations officer or have access to some sort of service.

It is obviously impossible for anyone here to get to the bottom of the allegations, but children being children, it's entirely credible that they have set up a mentally fragile person as some sort of bogey man who deserves to be a target. It does seem unlikely that a vulnerable man would be able to construct an entirely fictional diary of harassment. As others have pointed out, behaviour that most of us would just find irritating can seem far worse to someone whose perceptions are framed by mental difficulties.

meritaten

actually it isn't HIS front garden. its a communal area. the kids live there. and they DO avoid him - he scares them. I am talking about kids about 7 to 8 years old. not young teens but little kids. who sometimes don't understand 'boundaries' when they have always been able to play there or wave to people through the window.
the tenants do realise that he has mental health issues - but why should his delusions impact on them?
and the one who signed the contract has 'issues' of her own - she is a very anxious person who does what people in authority tell her to do. she was told she had to sign it or legal action would be taken against her, so she did. not fully understanding what it meant.

and my friends think its the other complainant who is telling this guy what to do. and feeding his fear - because they do think that he really thinks he is being targeted. he isn't. honestly, the people there just want to live and let live.

the HA does have a nuisance team - who have not followed their own procedure here. mediation was offered in one case and turned down as the person was too afraid of him. to the other tenants the notice of breach of tenancy came totally out of the blue. they had no idea anything was wrong.

Guest101

meritaten wrote: »

actually it isn't HIS front garden. its a communal area. - Its irrelevant. If he was stood in the equivalent spot looking into your home, you'd call the police. Should really respect boundaries, social if not geographical. the kids live there. and they DO avoid him - he scares them. I am talking about kids about 7 to 8 years old. - Should they be out unsupervised? not young teens but little kids. who sometimes don't understand 'boundaries' - again if they dont, should they be out unsupervised? when they have always been able to play there or wave to people through the window. - At age 7 or 8, they should be able to comrehend simple instructions, such as dont do that anymore.
the tenants do realise that he has mental health issues - but why should his delusions impact on them? - They won't unless the tenants, or their children, put themselves in that situation. Surely there is somewhere else they could play, away from his window?
and the one who signed the contract has 'issues' of her own - she is a very anxious person who does what people in authority tell her to do. - either she's capable of making decisions or she's not. If she is, then great, if not she should delegate some of the responsibility to a family member. she was told she had to sign it or legal action would be taken against her, so she did. not fully understanding what it meant. - It's in the phrase. Legal Acton. Action which is by definition legal. This would be a good opportunity to explain to her and others what this means.

and my friends think its the other complainant who is telling this guy what to do. and feeding his fear - because they do think that he really thinks he is being targeted. he isn't. honestly, the people there just want to live and let live. - great, be the bigger people and move the kids away from his property.

the HA does have a nuisance team - who have not followed their own procedure here. - Point this out to them, formally, in a complaint.mediation was offered in one case and turned down as the person was too afraid of him. - well mediation is a safe place. If the person doesnt understand this, it needs explaining again. to the other tenants the notice of breach of tenancy came totally out of the blue. they had no idea anything was wrong.

I can see why it's stressful, but there's simple solutions to this.

meritaten

Guest101 wrote: »

I can see why it's stressful, but there's simple solutions to this.

Do you live in the real world? what is wrong with you? the kids play out the front of their homes in the communal area as they have always done. and its called the COMMUNAL area for a good reason - so the community can use it! they ARE supervised as the parents and the neighbours can see them at all times. this is why my friends were surprised at these allegations of the kids behaviour. they would have been told by other neighbours or would have seen for themselves.
the kids HAVE been told he isn't well and not to bother him. and they have respected that. they are mostly good kids - all they want to do is play and have fun.
Why on earth should the kids be prevented from playing in the safest place for them? they haven't done anything to this man.